[AusNOG] Flooding in Rockhampton - What can AUSNOG do?

[Mark Smith]

Another charitable thing to do would be not to discuss your opinions
of the AU government's response to natural disasters on the ausnog
mailing list, as it is clearly off-topic. The moment responses without
discussion of the location of an Ausnog meeting disappeared is the
moment it went off the rails.

Thanks.

On Sat, 8 Jan 2011 16:17:37 +1100
Skeeve Stevens <Skeeve at eintellego.net> wrote:

> Hey Kai,
> 
> I've been involved in overseas mission for a long time... But I've always had the same thoughts.  Generosity is one thing, but I truly believe that charity should start at home.
> 
> Deal with the floods, homeless, victims of violence and other tragedies here in Australia before going elsewhere.... don’t ignore the world, but our taxes should be first and foremost used for dealing with the issues that are happening in our country first.  Bushfires, floods, etc ... It isn't like they happen rarely... These things are happening all the time, and the Australian government should be focusing on all the issues here as a priority.  When our backyard is good, then focus elsewhere.
> 
> Bad things around the world are important too, but it's a scale thing…. When squillions are sent to sent offshore when our own people could be using it, it does make you wonder.
> 
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> On 8/01/11 3:42 PM, "Kai" <vk6ksj at westnet.com.au<mailto:vk6ksj at westnet.com.au>> wrote:
> 
> Don't forget the Carnarvon/Gascoyne floods in WA, relatively speaking
> there's been bugger all media coverage on that flood but it's not like
> it's any less critical, flood levels not seen since the 1960's, people
> being airlifted out, millions of dollars in damage/loss and mess that
> will take months to clean up.
> 
> There's one thing I don't understand, the Federal Government has pledged
> tens (or hundreds) of millions to Pakistan's floods yet they they won't
> help out in their own backyard? Queenslanders are getting scraps in
> comparison and Perth lord mayer is asking for donations for the Gascoyne
> in WA...
> 
> http://www.abc.net.au/local/stories/2010/12/22/3099427.htm
> 
> There's a note on www.pakistan.com.au "what if every single Australian
> woke up tomorrow to find themselves homeless?", well a good chunk of
> Queensland doesn't have a home atm and the Gascoyne's just as bad, so we
> can help another country after we've sorted out our own problems.
> 
> On 7/01/2011 7:37 PM, Karl Kloppenborg wrote:
> >
> > Whilst it is a great idea in theory, I think that Steve might be right...
> >
> > However, what is stopping us from making donations to the relief efforts
> > happening up there?
> >
> > AusNOG is a big community, we should all join hands as one body and
> > really push to raise some money to go to these people.
> >
> > That is just my opinion :)
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> > On 07/01/2011, at 22:24, Craig Askings wrote:
> >
> >> Less than 700kms from Brisbane. That's a doable road trip for me.
> >>
> >> Craig
> >>
> >>
> >> On 07/01/2011, at 8:39 PM, Bevan Slattery <Bevan.Slattery at nextdc.com<mailto:Bevan.Slattery at nextdc.com>
> >> <mailto:Bevan.Slattery at nextdc.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi Nogger's,
> >>>
> >>> Now this maybe an impractical request, but it's one I would like the
> >>> Ausnog community to consider. As some would know I am a Rocky old boy
> >>> (and so is Steve Baxter). In fact my first job was working at
> >>> Rockhampton City Council. The people of Central Queensland are doing
> >>> it tough at the moment and will do so for some time. I still have a
> >>> few friends in Council up there and I spoke to the Mayor yesterday
> >>> and offered any support I could provide.
> >>>
> >>> One of the points the Mayor made was that everything is being done,
> >>> that can be done, but one thing he thought would really help is for
> >>> Australian's to know that Rockhampton/CQ will get back on its feet
> >>> and is open for business. I couldn't help but feel that one thing
> >>> that would be great is that if there was an "industry" event up in
> >>> Rockhampton - and AUSNOG came to mind. I really appreciate that
> >>> Rockhampton is out of the way and that many people that go to Ausnog
> >>> do so locally from Sydney.
> >>>
> >>> But I want to ask, would AUSNOG be interested in hosting AUSNOG in
> >>> Rockhampton this year? If people were interested, I would be happy to
> >>> see if we could get a semi-sponsored direct charter from Sydney to
> >>> Rockhampton for a reduced fee, and I'd personally be happy to charter
> >>> a boat for a day trip to Great Keppel Island for attendees. Maybe we
> >>> could have it at Rydges resort at Yeppoon? I'm sure the Mayor could
> >>> give a presentation on disaster management and a few telco folks give
> >>> a run down on how telecommunications were affected and how it
> >>> operated during the disaster and thereafter.
> >>>
> >>> I'm just reaching out with an idea and wondering if the friends of
> >>> Rockhampton can come half way (commercially) would this industry be
> >>> able to do the same? I understand there would be inconvenience and
> >>> additional cost, but would Nogger's (and their bosses) be prepared to
> >>> do that for the greater good?
> >>>
> >>> Over to everyone...
> >>>
> >>> Cheers
> >>>
> >>> [b]
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