[AusNOG] [off-topic] Samsung Galaxy S

Sat Jan 1 15:00:51 EST 2011

Phil,

It's the holidays... clearly it is of interest... it is in the Subject as 'off-topic', so just don't read it mate.

Traffic is low, so just relax.  You are also not the moderator... if they have an issue, I am sure they will say something.

...Skeeve

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net [mailto:ausnog-
> bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Phil Pierotti
> Sent: Friday, 31 December 2010 8:58 PM
> To: ausnog at ausnog.net
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] [off-topic] Samsung Galaxy S
>
> Enough Already!
>
> I am going to say it, because clearly the sensible ones have all
> managed to "have annual leave" at this time and are not checking their
> emails.
>
> If you KNEW well enough that the topic you wanted to open for
> discussion was OFF TOPIC enough that you needed to say it in the
> subject, they CLEARLY you knew that THIS is NOT the appropriate forum
> for discussing said TOPIC.
>
> At what point does this mailing list become 99% "OFF TOPIC - but my cat
> is pregnant and I dunno what to do - no seriously my cat has a WIFI
> CHIP so it's OPERATIONAL" and 1% *anything* to do with networking.
>
> Sure "smartphones have network access" these days, but the VAST and
> OVERWHELMING MAJORITY of this recent thread have NOT been ANYTHING to
> do with Australian Network Operations. (sorry guys, I'll suggest that
> mobile networks is some other mailing list).
>
> Think before you click, or people will realise that your phone is
> smarter than you are.
>
> Phil P
> ________________________________________
> From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net [ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net]
> On Behalf Of Ryan Verner [ryan at uanywhere.com.au]
> Sent: Friday, 31 December 2010 12:11 PM
> To: James Hodgkinson
> Cc: ausnog at ausnog.net
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] [off-topic] Samsung Galaxy S
>
> On 30/12/2010, at 19:47 , James Hodgkinson wrote:
> > I guess the question I have is... How reversible are things like the
> voodoo fix et al? I don't mind my phone but it would be hard to turn
> down an opportunity at getting more battery life and less application
> related lag...
>
> Very reversible; installation is a ridiculously simple procedure of
> putting a zip file onto the phone, and rebooting it holding down a few
> buttons and selecting an option.  You do exactly the same thing to
> reverse it.
>
> On 31/12/2010, at 24:22 , Kai wrote:
> > I got to to the "Kies update" window in the guide they have, nowhere
> > does it mention that the update is around 80meg...but anyway, it
> > downloads version 1.5.3.10103_102, dunno if that's any different to
> what
> > anyone else has but I hope it makes a difference.
>
> Is the latest update the absolute latest firmware from the
> manufacturer, or is it Virgin's latest firmware for the phone?  Don't
> underestimate carriers abilities to completely fsck up phones via
> stupid customisations on outdated firmware :-/
>
> Tried flashing a generic firmware?  (That said, I'm kind of with the
> previous comments that this kind of stuffing around shouldn't be
> necessary).
>
> > One thing I don't like about all these Android devices though, they
> all
> > require a GMail account to sync, even basic stuff like calendar's
> aren't
> > avaiable unless you sync. Google already has enough search info, they
> > don't ALSO need my calender, contacts and everything else!
>
> I held off buying an Android phone for ages because I thought this, but
> this isn't true; I sync everything happily with my Exchange server, and
> I'm fairly sure the local calendar works without a Gmail account.  I
> have one attached to the phone, but it is used for very little.
>
> R
>
> > Anyway, finished the guide at that URL, doesn't get me any further
> than
> > where I already am - with a phone that's currently only really useful
> as
> > a paperweight, so, time to call Virgin tomorrow and see what they
> will do.
> >
> > Cheers
> > Kai
>
>
> > On 30/12/2010 5:52 PM, "Joe Cozzupoli" <cozzupj at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Hi Kai,
> > >
> > > Sorry to throw a spanner in the works but I would definitely go for
> the
> > > Nexus S
> > >
> > > http://www.google.com/phone/detail/nexus-s
> > >
> > > <http://www.google.com/phone/detail/nexus-s>If you look around
> online, you
> > > would be able to buy it outright for around $800AUD. The benefits
> of this is
> > > that firmware upgrades go to you straight away, unlike HTC or
> > > other manufacturer Android phones where they have to brand the
> firmware
> > > upgrade before pushing it out.
> > >
> > > Also, I've been using the BlackBerry 9780 for a month now, its
> great. Runs
> > > OS6 so all nice and clean and bug free (so far).
> > >
> > > Just something else to consider.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Joe Cozzupoli.
> > >
> > > On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 6:06 PM, Kai <vk6ksj at westnet.com.au> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi Ryan,
> > >>
> > >> I visited our only Telstra shop today, they're a franchise but
> they have
> > >> the HTC Desire, Nokia N8 and Samsung Galaxy S (2.1-update
> firmware) and
> > >> they said they've sold quite a few Samsung's with absolutely no
> problem,
> > >> so I showed the sales rep mine, he played with it for a bit,
> > >> acknowledged it is slow but that he hasn't seen any issues with
> the
> > >> one's they've sold.
> > >>
> > >> My phone's spec:
> > >> Model GT-I9000
> > >> Firmware 2.2
> > >> Baseband version: I9000DTJP3
> > >> Kernel: 2.6.32.9
> > >> Build: FROYO.DTJP5
> > >>
> > >> I note Telstra's phone has 2.1-update firmware, mine has 2.2 but
> runs
> > >> really badly.
> > >>
> > >> I don't want to root my phone, shouldn't need to when it's only
> three
> > >> months old, but I'll read some more about the voodoo fix.
> > >>
> > >> It's 3pm here, Sydney is three hours ahead of us, I'll ring Virgin
> > >> tomorrow, try to talk to the front line customer service staff and
> see
> > >> if I can get anywhere...
> > >>
> > >> Cheers
> > >> Kai
> > >>
> > >> On 30/12/10 14:43, Ryan Verner wrote:
> > >> > I'm extremely surprised by the opinions here; I own a I9000T
> (Telstra
> > >> branded model), and I love the phone - I'm a hopeless gadget geek
> who seems
> > >> to regularly change phones. I don't intend on changing this
> handset for
> > >> some time.
> > >> >
> > >> > I had read about the issues people were having (terrible battery
> life,
> > >> GPS, reboots, lag), but I'm having none of them with the base 2.1
> Telstra
> > >> ROM and voodoo fix; average battery life of 1-2 days (screen
> brightness
> > >> lowest, Exchange sync on, sync everything else turned off), GPS
> works
> > >> flawlessly, unit is always responsive.
> > >> >
> > >> > Battery life definitely could be better, but several HTC
> handsets I
> > >> tested were worse; seems to be the achilles heel of Android phones
> in
> > >> general currently.
> > >> >
> > >> > I've always pondered whether the Telstra firmware had a bunch of
> > >> manufacturer fixes the Optus branded ones didn't have; the build
> date on the
> > >> shipped ROM is very recent ('2.1-update').
> > >> >
> > >> > Have you guys tried updating to 2.2? Maybe the issue is the
> shipping
> > >> firmware on the Optus handsets is total junk?
> > >> >
> > >> > R
> > >> >
> > >> > On 29/12/2010, at 20:33 , Kai wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >> Hahaa, I'm on two year contract with the Galaxy S, I can't just
> throw it
> > >> >> out, even though I'd love to. I read Andrew Fort's email, I
> found the
> > >> >> only spot in the house with good enough reception for data
> connection (I
> > >> >> -think- it's the best spot..but the signal meter on this phone
> isn't
> > >> >> reliable anymore) and downloading ROM Manager, then I'll try
> step 2 and
> > >> >> fingers crossed that works 'cause it's gunna suck if I'm
> contracted to
> > >> >> this phone for another year and nine months :S
> > >> >>
> > >> >> My VirginMobile plan is good but this phone sux balls!
> > >> >>
> > >> >> So why'd I get one? well, my old Nokia was dying, needed a
> replacement,
> > >> >> thought I'd give smartphones a go since it allows me to check
> weather
> > >> >> radar and stuff when I'm storm chasing, didn't want an iPhone,
> figured
> > >> >> I'd try the Samsung... and my old Nokia got stolen about a
> month after I
> > >> >> got the Samsung.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> I've been using Nokia for the last eight years, first time I've
> used
> > >> >> Samsung hasn't left a good taste in my mouth!
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Cheers
> > >> >> Kai
> > >> >>
> > >> >> On 29/12/10 17:36, Darren Moss wrote:
> > >> >>> Yep, that looks just like mine.
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> Go buy one and junk the other thing.
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> Spend less time getting the thing to work and more time
> actually using
> > >> it.
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> Sounds like an ad.
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> :)
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> Regards,
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> Darren Moss
> > >> >>> General Manager
> > >> >>> Australia and New Zealand
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> em3 People and Technology, Managed Technology Experts.
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> [p] 1300 131 083 extension 105 [f] 03 9017 2287
> > >> >>> [e] Darren.Moss at em3.com.au [w] www.em3.com.au
> > >> >>> PO Box 2333, Moorabbin VIC 3189
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> New Zealand Airedale Street, Auckland City
> > >> >>> [p] 0800 888 285 [f] 09 887 0273
> > >> >>> PO Box 39573, Howick 2045
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> -----Original Message-----
> > >> >>> From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net [mailto:
> > >> ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Kai
> > >> >>> Sent: Wednesday, 29 December 2010 8:33 PM
> > >> >>> To: ausnog at ausnog.net
> > >> >>> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] [off-topic] Samsung Galaxy S
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> Hey Darren,
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> Hahahaaa, for some reason I was expecting at least some
> reassuring
> > >> >>> feedback that there's a fix for all this. In all the browsing
> I've done
> > >> >>> in the last month I can't find one reliable resolution for
> this bloody
> > >> >>> phone.
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> I don't wanna jailbreak/root it, that'll void the warranty,
> I'm tempted
> > >> >>> to ask Virgin for an exchange with Nokia N8 or maybe HTC but
> the
> > >> >>> likelihood they'll actually exchange it is 0, none or bugger
> all.
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> My Kies CD and Samsung data cable got stolen when my car got
> broken
> > >> into
> > >> >>> in Darwin, I've been trying to get the phone to behave itself
> on
> > >> >>> Bluetooth but either the machine doesn't want to talk to the
> phone or
> > >> >>> vice versa 'cause they can see each other, but they can't pair
> and Kies
> > >> >>> tells me there are no Bluetooth devices available. FFS.
> Anyway, I'm
> > >> back
> > >> >>> in Broome and managed to find the USB cable that fits the
> Samsung,
> > >> >>> downloaded and installed Kies, backed up, upgraded
> firmware....but yep,
> > >> >>> still crashes randomly, email doesn't know if it's coming or
> going, and
> > >> >>> recently it says it can't send sms until a service is
> available even
> > >> >>> though I have four signal bars displaying. Keh?
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> I think I've got a snowflakes chance in hell to get a
> replacement,
> > >> >>> Virgin customer service staff are 99% outsourced, and with no
> offence
> > >> to
> > >> >>> outsourced staff, if it's not in their script they don't know
> what to
> > >> do
> > >> >>> so I end up on hold for ages, like I did last weekend.
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> I used my cousins Nokia N8 on the weekend, it looked ok but
> then again
> > >> >>> anything would look ok compared to the Galaxy S. That said, I
> asked on
> > >> >>> another mailing list and one user replied she's got hers last
> month and
> > >> >>> she loves it, hehe, lucky her, mine sux!
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> You like the BB Torch9800?
> > >> >>> http://us.blackberry.com/smartphones/blackberrytorch/
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> It has a REAL keypad, I like it already :P what are the screen
> > >> dimensions?
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> Cheers
> > >> >>> Kai
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> On 29/12/10 17:13, Darren Moss wrote:
> > >> >>>> Hey Kai,
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> If I had a dollar for every complaint we've received
> regarding the
> > >> Samsung Galaxy phone......
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> We've had a few of these connected up on our Hosted Exchange
> platform
> > >> and the customers have the same complaints:
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> 1. Poor battery life (number 1 problem - lucky to get 8
> hours)
> > >> >>>> 2. Crashing and hanging
> > >> >>>> 3. Phone restarts at random
> > >> >>>> 4. Slow to pick up mail (even when in push mode)
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> We fixed some with Voda via firmware upgrade, but the bottom
> line was
> > >> they were just too painful.
> > >> >>>> There were too many "issues" and we couldn't get any real
> information
> > >> from the telco or the vendor - similar to the old Nokia e75
> handsets which
> > >> were a disaster.
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> I thought that the handset could not possibly be that bad, so
> I bought
> > >> one in November. It's sitting in a box at my Melbourne office
> after 1 week
> > >> of use. Even the staff didn't want it after hearing my
> complaining.
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> Now I have a BB Torch - the best handset I have ever owned
> without a
> > >> doubt (upgraded from BB Bold). It actually works, is fast and
> reliable.
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> HTH.
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> Regards,
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> Darren Moss
> > >> >>>> General Manager
> > >> >>>> Australia and New Zealand
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> em3 People and Technology, Managed Technology Experts.
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> [p] 1300 131 083 extension 105 [f] 03 9017 2287
> > >> >>>> [e] Darren.Moss at em3.com.au [w] www.em3.com.au
> > >> >>>> PO Box 2333, Moorabbin VIC 3189
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> New Zealand Airedale Street, Auckland City
> > >> >>>> [p] 0800 888 285 [f] 09 887 0273
> > >> >>>> PO Box 39573, Howick 2045
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> > >> >>>> From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net [mailto:
> > >> ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Kai
> > >> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, 29 December 2010 8:02 PM
> > >> >>>> To: ausnog at ausnog.net
> > >> >>>> Subject: [AusNOG] [off-topic] Samsung Galaxy S
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> Hi guys and girls,
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> I hope you all had a great Christmas, I did! No prezzies,
> well no
> > >> >>>> conventional prezzies, I had time with my family/friends for
> > >> Christmas,
> > >> >>>> that's all I wanted! :)
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> Sorry for the off-topic post, I wanted to ask everyone's
> valued
> > >> opinions
> > >> >>>> but feel free to reply off list with feedback.
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> Last Monday Broome's Optus repeater had issues and they had
> to get
> > >> parts
> > >> >>>> up from Perth (thanks to Chris Brown for the info),
> coincidentally
> > >> >>>> that's also when my Samsung decided to play silly buggers. I
> initially
> > >> >>>> thought there may be issues with Optus Broome repeater here
> because I
> > >> >>>> have fluctuating signal strength meter readings when standing
> under
> > >> the
> > >> >>>> Optus repeater here, but, overall, the most annoying thing is
> random
> > >> >>>> black screens and general slow performance.
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> Similar to the trouble this lady is having:
> > >> >>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cB1b0UrX9e0
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> Problems are intermittant enough to be annoying, ie I can't
> reproduce
> > >> on
> > >> >>>> cue but my phone is less than three months old, I expect it
> to work. I
> > >> >>>> backed up my contacts and did a firmware upgrade last week,
> still
> > >> >>>> doesn't work properley.
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> Anyone got similar issues?
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> In case anyone does have similar issues my details are:
> > >> >>>> Model GT-I9000
> > >> >>>> Firmware 2.2
> > >> >>>> Baseband version: I9000DTJP3
> > >> >>>> Kernel: 2.6.32.9
> > >> >>>> Build: FROYO.DTJP5
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> I am with VirginMobile, they use Optus mobile network.
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> Cheers
> > >> >>>> Kai
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