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[Roland Chan]

It's a little naive to suggest that every major policy concern goes to the
election. "Never ever" anyone?

The reality is we elect them, they do their thing, and we decide whether to
reelect them.

That a vote's power is uneven across the country should surprise noone.

Don't like it? Maintain the rage comrade.

On 11 Sep 2010 01:33, "Mark Smith" <
nanog at 85d5b20a518b8f6864949bd940457dc124746ddc.nosense.org> wrote:
> On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 10:10:38 +1000
> Paul Brooks <pbrooks-ausnog at layer10.com.au> wrote:
>
>> On 10/09/2010 8:00 AM, Mark Smith wrote:
>> > I thought everybody was getting fibre -
>> >
>> > "you do it once, you do it right and you do it with fibre" - Tony
>> > Windsor
>> 93% of everybody is getting fibre. The rest - particularly the 'outside'
- were always
>> getting radio, in every model - its one of the few ways they all agreed.
>
> My comment was facetious.
>
> When I'm not on paid time, I try to "eat my own dog
> food", which means think like an end-user, and specifically, since both
> my parents grew up on farms (and the penalty of that is that I've
> never "milked the cows at 6.00am 7 days of the week", and been told
> about it on multiple occasions), I also try to think like a farmer on
> occasion. If an independent that I've elected, or is supposedly
> representing regional concerns, is saying "you do it right and you do
> it with fibre" and I'm thinking like a farmer, I'm probably going to be
> saying "where's my glass going ..." when the NBNco people rock up.
>
>> Interestingly that remaining 7% is likely to be made up of many many
small pockets of
>> houses inside the nominal fibre footprint area - odd streets and spurs of
suburbs
>> without sufficient housing density to justify a fibre deployment. If you
live in a
>> spur of bushland beside a national park or river, you may be out of luck
-
>> consequently the radio network may have to cover quite a lot of the
urbanised area.
>>
>> > I find it a tragedy that choices about who's going to form government,
>> > with the NBN supposedly being one of the major criteria, were made by
>> > people who don't know the reality of the NBN deployment. But what can
>> > you expect when politicians try to understand and make judgements on
>> > mechanism rather than limiting themselves to policy.
>> And here I was thinking choices about who's going to form government were
made by the
>> people, voting for a representative of their community. People who also
largely don't
>> know the reality of the NBN deployment, if there is one.
>>
>
> When the independents have extracted non-election commitments from
> the party that that has ended up being in government (and to be
> bi-partisan, that's probably what would have happened if the other
> party got in), also not being what the independendts went into the
> election committing to, then I think that it means that my vote is
> worth far less than what the electors in the independents electorates
> has ended up being worth. That's not democracy, and that is why I'd
> have much rathered another election, regardless of the cost (and I
> don't say that lightly).
>
>> I find it refreshing that there is someone still left who thinks there is
a one true
>> reality when it comes to the NBN, for anyone to 'know'.
>>
>
> If you start with philosophy, you've got so much more room to compromise
> when you're actually both aiming for and dealing with reality.
>
>> Paul.
>>
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