[AusNOG] Katter backs Coalition - Windsor backs Gillard

[Mark Smith]

On Tue, 7 Sep 2010 17:54:28 +0800
"Greg M" <gregm at servu.net.au> wrote:

> We use Tandberg Edge 95 MXP devices at work, and they are marketed as "HD" -
> over a 1.5Mbps SHDSL connection we are able to stream very decent video
> quality to a 55" Plasma screen.
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> With a 5Mbps stream (500KB/s) from a VPLS link between Sydney & Perth, we
> can get incredibly sharp picture quality.
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> I agree that pushing NBN as a solution for Video conferencing is rubbish,
> because in reality you can get the bandwidth to run that now over Copper
> (Annex M, Bonded DSL, SHDSL, even possible over 3G with a good signal).
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> As far as price goes though, even the Edge 95 MXP devices are hideously
> expensive - Tandberg/Cisco have a long way to go before these solutions are
> at a price point for small businesses before they would even consider a VC
> solution.
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Logitech are claiming HD/720p on a number of web cams, such as this one
for around $150AU -

http://www.logitech.com/en-au/webcam-communications/webcams/devices/6816

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> Greg
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> From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net
> [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Grahame Lynch
> Sent: Tuesday, 7 September 2010 5:12 PM
> To: Lincoln Dale
> Cc: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net; Bevan Slattery
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Katter backs Coalition - Windsor backs Gillard
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> Honest question here Lincoln.
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> Why does it have to be HD?
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> Ive done alot of work in television broadcasting and have some firm views
> about this (and have seen first hand the difficulties going HD creates for
> professional TV productions in terms of production design, costuming,
> lighting and make up). It adds complexity, and certainly isnt necessary for
> personal communications. 
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> CNN now happily puts to air footage from Skype videocasts and satphones that
> work on 500k or less. It's not great and obviously broadcast quality video
> is desirable. But if CNN can rough it why is HD videoconferencing so
> essential for normal people?
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> On 7 September 2010 16:06, Lincoln Dale <ltd at cisco.com> wrote:
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> On 07/09/2010, at 6:53 PM, Paseka, Tomas wrote:
> > So when is Telepresense gonna be at a price point that the average
> > business can afford to buy it?
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> certainly Cisco has "high end" with a range of products - and certainly it
> has a "high end" price to go with it.
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> but its not to say that there aren't alternate offerings - either from the
> company i work for (who relatively recently also owns Tandberg) or others.
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> likely that your next phone handset will have semi-decent video if it does
> not already.
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> > Or any other video conferencing solution for that point.
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> little more than a couple of years ago, "HD video cameras" used to be
> incredibly expensive.  so did "prosumer" digital cameras.
> i'd expect the same to happen with any electronic goods as they become
> commodity goods due to increased demand driving increased supply.
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> a lot of the 'enablers' for this are already happening - be it the CMOS
> video sensors in volume or the DSPs to process HD video in system-on-chip at
> low power levels.
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> you can thank multiple reasons for this.  the automobile industry is a huge
> reason.  so is security/surveilance industry.  and of course
> Apple/Android/(insert_handset_manufacturer_here).
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> cheers,
> 
> lincoln.
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