[AusNOG] Where are all the Network / Security Enginees?

[Karl Kloppenborg]

Off topic I know.

But...

Stephen don't you think that is just a bit uncalled for?

Both were just asking for some honest replies, yet you come in and make a joke of them?

Even though I know I may have cracked a slight joke (let it be known it was followed by a serious question though) I think you have taken it too far.

Professional courtesy should be upheld, even by you.

</rant>

Phillip, on the sydney job.. it states "Or equivalent experience" what would you say this would be set at?
five years experience?

Cheers!
Karl Kloppenborg


On 01/09/2010, at 16:35, Stephen Carter wrote:

> Two words that should be added to the Charter:
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> ·         Professional courtisy
> ·         Ethics
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> You guys are serious hilarious.
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> If you run a great company people come to you, you don’t need to advertise... tip: good place to start J
>  
> Good luck with your search [not being facicious].
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>  
> From: Phillip Grasso [mailto:phillip.grasso at gmail.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, 1 September 2010 4:30 PM
> To: Stephen Carter
> Cc: Pinkerton, Eric; ausnog at ausnog.net List
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Where are all the Network / Security Enginees?
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> hopefully this is not bad form, rather then sending starting another thread on this topic for those that are not interested, instead i'll append to this one. Hopefully you don't mind the competition for candidates (although I suspect we're after different segment of candidates). 
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> http://www.google.com.au/intl/en/jobs/sydney/engops/opsit/security-engineer-sydney/index.html
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> We're also after Network Security engineers, but you'll need to consider working in the US.
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> On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 4:08 PM, Stephen Carter <Stephen.Carter at workingtech.com> wrote:
> Agreed J
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> PS you are welcome to send your resume to us if you want then J
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> From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Pinkerton, Eric
> Sent: Wednesday, 1 September 2010 4:06 PM
> To: Stephen Carter
> 
> Cc: ausnog at ausnog.net List
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Where are all the Network / Security Enginees?
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> I'll take that on the chin, but for the record, I'm an engineer not a recruiter.
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> The level of interest off list far outweighs the flames, so I'm happy.
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> PS. If your staff are happy you have nothing to fear ;-)
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> From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Stephen Carter
> Sent: Wednesday, 1 September 2010 2:46 PM
> To: Pinkerton, Eric
> Cc: ausnog at ausnog.net List
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Where are all the Network / Security Enginees?
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> Welcome to Seek / Telstra
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> We should change the charter to include exclusive recruitment channel for Telstra
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> How unusual for Telstra to not care about the rest of the market. J
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> From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Pinkerton, Eric
> Sent: Wednesday, 1 September 2010 2:30 PM
> Cc: ausnog at ausnog.net List
> Subject: [AusNOG] Where are all the Network / Security Enginees?
>  
> All,
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> I wouldn't normally consider this, and hope posting this it isn't poor form (the charter makes no mention), but having exhausted all the usual methods we are still struggling to find a Network/Security Engineer in Sydney CBD with either the right level of experience, or the enthusiasm and aptitude to make up for it.
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> So if you know anyone who fit's the bill, and might be interested feel free to contact me off list or view the JD here - http://www.seek.com.au/job/network-security-b-engineer-b/sydney/18023781/97/1/
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> We are willing to train the right person if nessessary.
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> Apologies in advance if I have broken any unwritten rules here!
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> Eric
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