[AusNOG] NBN Legislation

[Stephen Carter]

Hi All,

I am just adding a voice to this (I like most others in the industry have been consistently opposed to the NBN from day 1, as nobody has ever presented a business or real reason to change my view).

The NBN as it is proposed is an absolute waste of money and a significant step backwards for business, competition, innovation, and especially employment in Australia not just Telco's but the entire productive population.

If this stuff gets voted in then politicians are voting for something they don't understand and the current government is playing other politicians (and the public) as fools.

Imagine being able to spend >$40billion just to save face!!!

Sorry for the opinion on a technical forum, but I can add that I have actually read the proposed legislation, NBN releases, wiki, I am a significant owner of and run and operate a Telco myself and related businesses and all I can say is overall what a load of dribble.

Happy to be slammed... by the list.


-----Original Message-----
From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Bevan Slattery
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2010 1:30 PM
To: Bill Walker; ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] NBN Legislation

I think it's really important to note the report isn't against any form of fibre NBN.  It really highlights the need for a cost benefit analysis.

Cheers

[b]

-----Original Message-----
From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Bill Walker
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2010 11:52 AM
To: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] NBN Legislation

 The full study is available here:

 http://sites.google.com/a/commcham.com/www/publications/Overselling_Fibre_1127.pdf?attredirects=0


 On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 13:45:26 +1300, Bill Walker <bill at wjw.co.nz> wrote:
> Anyone read this, it questions the worth of NBN, thoughts?
>
>
> 
> http://www.stuff.co.nz/technology/digital-living/4403408/Benefits-of-b
> roadband-questioned
>
>  Benefits of broadband questioned
>
>  The Australian federal government has been accused of misusing 
> research  to build the case for the national broadband network in an 
> international  study that finds the claimed benefits have been 
> ''grossly overstated''.
>
>  Released in London before the vote today on legislation paving the 
> way  for the NBN, the study found that the evidence to support claims 
> made  for fibre-to-the-home networks was ''surprisingly weak'' and 
> cited  Australia as a key example.
>
>  ''All else equal, faster is better,'' noted the study, prepared by 
> the  British telecommunications consultant Robert Kenny and Charles 
> Kenny  from the US Centre for Global Development. ''But faster 
> technologies  don't always triumph; think of passenger hovercraft, 
> maglev trains, and  supersonic airliners.
>
>  ''Concorde (if it hadn't retired) would still be the fastest 
> passenger  aircraft today, having first flown in 1969. It turned out 
> that the  incremental benefits of speed to most customers were not 
> worth the extra  cost.''
>
>  South Korea, cited as the world leader in providing fibre to homes,  
> enjoyed productivity growth of 7.6 per cent per capita per year in the  
> decade before it began the program and 3.8 per cent in the decade 
> since.
>
>  ''Many factors played into the growth slowdown,'' the study says. 
> ''But
>  maybe the massive increase in online gaming, facilitated by the  
> broadband revolution, played a role.''
>
>  In launching Australia's broadband network in 2009, Prime Minister  
> Kevin Rudd said 78 per cent of the productivity gains in service  
> businesses and 85 per cent in manufacturing flowed from information 
> and  communications technology.
>
>  The study traced this claim back to two papers from Australia's  
> Communications Department referring to gains of 59 to 78 per cent and 
> 65  to 85 per cent.
>
>  ''What was an upper bound in the research has become a mid-point in  
> Rudd's speech,'' it says.
>
>  ''But more importantly, the research was looking at all technological  
> factors. Thus the figures cited include the benefits of everything 
> from  biotechnology to the rise of containerised transport.''
>
>  Also, the research cited by Mr Rudd covered the periods 1985 to 2001  
> and 1984 to 2002, ''when the internet was in its infancy and broadband  
> was pre-natal''.
> _______________________________________________
> AusNOG mailing list
> AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net
> http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog

_______________________________________________
AusNOG mailing list
AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net
http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
_______________________________________________
AusNOG mailing list
AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net
http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
#####################################################################################
Scanned by MailMarshal - Marshal8e6's comprehensive email content security solution. 
Download a free evaluation of MailMarshal at www.marshal.com
#####################################################################################