[AusNOG] NBN Legislation

[Mark Smith]

On Sun, 28 Nov 2010 10:26:10 +1030
Matthew Moyle-Croft <mmc at internode.com.au> wrote:

> Are there any cable operators in AU who have _not_ upgraded to DOCSIS3.0 already?
> 

I don't know specifically. I've assumed that because the DOCSIS 3.0
speeds aren't universally available, that DOCSIS 3.0 hasn't been
universally deployed. I've only been keeping up with DOCSIS 3.0
deployment via occasional news articles, mainly from the point of view
of IPv6 capability deployment.

Telstra are saying a max downstream speed of 30Mbps

http://go.bigpond.com/broadband/what-is-broadband/index.jsp

which corresponds to DOCSIS 2.0 -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DOCSIS#Speed_tables

This quote from the above Telstra page seems to imply the baseline
version of their network is DOCSIS 2.0 (and the upgrade being
described was from DOCSIS 1.0 to 2.0, not 2.0 to 3.0)

"We've upgraded our entire Cable network to provide customers on BigPond
Elite Cable Plans with download speeds of up to 30Mbps1."

Regards,
Mark.


> MMC
> 
> On 28/11/2010, at 9:23 AM, Mark Smith wrote:
> 
> > On Sat, 27 Nov 2010 11:45:50 +0000
> > Bevan Slattery <Bevan.Slattery at nextdc.com> wrote:
> > 
> >> Let me give you some more examples to chew on:
> >> 
> >> Any HFC network owner such as looking to upgrade their network to DOCSIS 3.0
> > 
> > Hmm, so no IPv6 for HFC customers then, other than tunnelled
> > over IPv4.
> > 
> > 
> >> Any provider installing in-building DSLAM's delivering high speed broadband to residential towers using VDSL
> >> Any provider installing in-building DSLAM's delivering high speed broadband to commercial buildings using VDSL
> >> Any DSLAM provider considering upgrading their DSLAM's to be able to provide VDSL (particularly in inner metro)
> >> Any provider installing GPON to residential communities or buildings
> >> Any provider installing GPON to commercial buildings
> >> Any provider offering Ethernet services over fibre and decides (due to necessity) to upgrade core/distribution/edge components
> >> Any provider possibly offering bonded EFM services of greater than 25Mbps
> >> *maybe* any Submarine Cable owner with network elements in Australia
> >> 
> >> [b]
> >> 
> >> 
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net [mailto:ausnog-
> >>> bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Bevan Slattery
> >>> Sent: Saturday, 27 November 2010 9:34 PM
> >>> To: James Andrewartha
> >>> Cc: ausnog at ausnog.net
> >>> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] NBN Legislation
> >>> 
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: James Andrewartha [mailto:trs80 at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au]
> >>>> Isn't that exempt under the following?
> >>>> 
> >>>> "Second, where a telecommunications network (other than the NBN)
> >>> comes
> >>>> into existence or is altered or upgraded, after 25 November 2010, to
> >>>> supply or be capable of supplying a superfast carriage service to
> >>>> customers, other than individual government or corporate end-users, ..."
> >>> 
> >>> Have a read of the actual clause and let me know what your interpretation is.
> >>> It's a network that is used *or is capable of being used*.  It is where the
> >>> "network" is not used *wholey* to supply carriage services.
> >>> 
> >>> Sure seems captured to me.
> >>> 
> >>> [b]
> >>> 
> >>> For the purposes of this Part, if:
> >>>                     (a)  a telecommunications network is used, or is capable of being
> >>> used, to supply one or more Layer 2 bitstream services to customers, or
> >>> prospective customers, in Australia; and
> >>>                     (b)  the network is used, or is capable of being used, to supply a
> >>> superfast carriage service to customers, or prospective customers, in
> >>> Australia; and
> >>>                     (c)  the network is not the national broadband network; and
> >>>                     (d)  either:
> >>>                              (i)  the network came into existence after 25 November 2010;
> >>> or
> >>>                             (ii)  the network was altered or upgraded after 25 November
> >>> 2010 and, as a result of the alteration or upgrade, the network became
> >>> capable of being used to supply a superfast carriage service to customers, or
> >>> prospective customers, in Australia; and
> >>>                     (e)  the network is not used wholly to supply carriage services to a
> >>> single end-user, where that end-user is:
> >>>                              (i)  a public body (within the meaning of the
> >>> Telecommunications Act 1997 ); or
> >>>                             (ii)  a company;
> >>> the network is a designated superfast telecommunications network .
> >>> 
> >>> To my (non-legal) reading, it's captured.
> >>> 
> >>> [b]
> >>> 
> 
>