[AusNOG] Google creepier than Conroy?

[Matthew Moyle-Croft]

On 30/05/2010, at 2:30 PM, Craig Askings wrote:

Does it have an ip address?

An RFC1918 one.

MMC


Craig



On 30/05/2010, at 2:53 PM, Matthew Moyle-Croft <mmc at internode.com.au<mailto:mmc at internode.com.au>>
wrote:


On 30/05/2010, at 2:10 PM, <craig at askings.com.au<mailto:craig at askings.com.au>> wrote:


if it is attatched to the PSTN or a dsl service then it is still
counts as
being part of a telecomuncations system.

My TV is connected to an ethernet switch in a DSL modem.   Is that
part of the telecommunications system as well?

MMC


Craig

On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 8:53 PM, Bevan Slattery <
Bevan.Slattery at staff.pipenetworks.com<mailto:Bevan.Slattery at staff.pipenetworks.com>> wrote:

Section 7 of the TIA Act states:

(1) A person shall not:
    (a) intercept;
    (b) authorize, suffer or permit another person to intercept;
or
    (c) do any act or thing that will enable him or her or another
person to intercept;
    a communication passing over a telecommunications system.


Perhaps a few definitions are in order...

>From http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/taaa1979410/s7.html
:

*"telecommunications system" means:

                  (a)  a telecommunications network that is within
Australia; or

                  (b)  a telecommunications network that is partly
within
Australia, but only to the extent that the network is within
Australia; *

and in turn :

*"telecommunications network" means a system, or series of
systems, for
carrying  communications  by means of guided or unguided
electromagnetic
energy or both, but does not include a system, or series of
systems, for
carrying communications  solely by means of radiocommunication. *


Now IANAL, however it would seem to me that based on those
definitions the
"interception" of SSID and Wifi MAC addresses would NOT be covered
by that
act, as these are part of a system "for carrying communications
solely by
means of radiocommunication".

Data is a little different, as in that context it's possible
(probable?)
that the "series of systems" part comes into play as the data
would be
expected to cross not just the Wifi "system", but also the greater
non-radio
Internet.

Scott.


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