[AusNOG] Govt wants ISPs to record user history

[Tom Wright]

I acknowledge the IIA's suggestion to "engage not only with 
the industry..." - but I find that notion particularly hard to take
seriously.

Looking back over the government's track record of 'engaging' with
our industry would suggest that they'll be quick to censor any 
dissenters and alienate everyone in the process.

... and then just to show their support, they'll notionally withdraw 
support for one of the successful gems of the IT industry in favour 
of an expensive, bureaucratic monolith.

Have the ALP lost their minds?


-- Tom


On 11/06/2010, at 12:56 PM, Brad Gould wrote:

> Of course if they were serious about stopping all the "bad stuff" 
> they'll introduce the same legislation to apply to snail mail and 
> telephone calls.
> 
> /end snark
> 
> Its clearly unacceptable.  And technically infeasible.  What sort of 
> labour think tank and focus groups are ok with these ideas?  The mind 
> boggles.
> 
> Brad
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 11/06/2010 12:27, Peter Childs wrote:
>> 
>> If they really want this stuff why don't they just ask google...  sheesh...
>> 
>> On 11/06/2010, at 12:24 PM, Arkady Gundroff wrote:
>> 
>>> Makes me wonder who will wear the cost of retaining said data, let alone making the API and paying for the interconnects to the BigBr^H^H^H^H^H government.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Sean K. Finn
>>> Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 12:50 PM
>>> To: 'Rob Byrnes'; 'ausnog at ausnog.net'
>>> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Govt wants ISPs to record user history
>>> 
>>> Next they'll want an API so they can interact with the records and change them as necessary...
>>> 
>>> I wonder if that's the next step.
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Rob Byrnes
>>> Sent: Friday, 11 June 2010 12:45 PM
>>> To: ausnog at ausnog.net
>>> Subject: [AusNOG] Govt wants ISPs to record user history
>>> 
>>> http://www.zdnet.com.au/govt-wants-isps-to-record-user-data-339303785.htm
>>> 
>>> Not only will there be a firewall to contend with, but possibly a data
>>> retention policy ... where's that book I was reading ... by some bloke
>>> called Orwell.
>>> 
>>> Any members of this list been contacted for "discussion"?
>>> 
> 
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