[AusNOG] Why No Form Of Censorship Is A Good Thing

Fri Jul 23 16:34:20 EST 2010

Since no one else is has pointed it out, I can't help but do it..

        Look at Page 12 of the mostly blacked out document

        Table 2, first entry..

        ADSL = Asynchronous Digital Subscriber Line

        If they can't get there abbreviations/acronyms right.....

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    Phill Twiss

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From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Sean K. Finn
Sent: Friday, 23 July 2010 2:03 PM
To: 'Ramsay, Paul'; 'ausnog'
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Why No Form Of Censorship Is A Good Thing

Begin with asking perhaps why Gov't censored 90% of document relating to censoring and what they have to accomplish by stifling 'un-necessary debate', and ask them to detail why debate is deemed to be 'un-necessary'. More like Un-wanted holding-to-account-for-actions.

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/technology/technology-news/no-minister-90-of-web-snoop-document-censored-to-stop--premature-unnecessary-debate-20100722-10mxo.html?autostart=1

" The federal government has censored approximately 90 per cent of a secret document outlining its controversial plans to snoop on Australians' web surfing, obtained under freedom of information (FoI) laws, out of fear the document could cause "premature unnecessary debate".
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http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/web-snooping-policy-shrouded-in-secrecy-20100617-yi1u.html

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From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Ramsay, Paul
Sent: Friday, 23 July 2010 3:30 PM
To: ausnog
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Why No Form Of Censorship Is A Good Thing

I came across this today, maybe a good place to ask a question!

Minister Conroy to address AIIA members on NBN/Digital Economy

LAST CHANCE TO REGISTER BEFORE CLOSE OF BUSINESS, FRIDAY JULY 23, 2010
With the announcement of the election, Minister Conroy has chosen this
forum as an opportunity to make significant comment on policies and
strategies for the NBN/Digital Economy.  He has requested that he be
given a longer speaking time and also requested that the media be
invited to attend and ask him questions.  This event is not to be
missed.  Registrations will be closing at 5.30pm sharp Friday 23 July,
so do not hesitate.

http://www.aiia.com.au/event_details.aspx?ID=5cdc6c4a-ea6d-df11-b187-005
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-----Original Message-----
From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net
[mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Brad Gould
Sent: Friday, 23 July 2010 2:24 PM
To: Kai
Cc: ausnog
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Why No Form Of Censorship Is A Good Thing

Lets censor them to protest censorship?

Freedom of speech (something we have no actual right to in Australia,
but pretty much all believe in) cuts both ways.

To the issue at hand today, I agree its completely comical, and at its
heart, diabolical.  I hope the SMH appeals the decision, and I suspect
any independent arbitrator would have a field day with this.

Brad

On 23/07/2010 13:43, Kai wrote:
> Shortly before ISP's on AusNOG voluntary decided to filter federal
government, ACL and their associates and redirect them to a page that
tells them to keep their grubby hands off our freedom? or are we just
going to sit on our hands and let it happen?
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> From: "Matthew Zobel"<matthew.zobel at gmail.com>
> To: ausnog at ausnog.net
> Sent: Friday, 23 July, 2010 2:02:00 PM GMT +10:00 Canberra / Melbourne
/ Sydney
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