[AusNOG] Australian Censorship program to go ahead - Gillard supports a the great firewall

[Kai]

Nope, that won't help....probably get negative publicity and then be mentioned somewhere as "pro-child-porn advocates who crashed the party" by Conroy somehow, just to make us all look bad.

What we need is our own press conference, similar to what Conroy would have, anyone know how who we could contact to speak after him at a press conference and shoot down every one of his stupid "misinformed" ideas, point by point, and make people understand what's going on.

Surely someone on list knows someone who knows someone who can make that happen?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Daniel Hood" <dsmhood at gmail.com>
To: "Kai" <vk6ksj at westnet.com.au>
Cc: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
Sent: Thursday, 8 July, 2010 11:38:22 AM GMT +09:30 Darwin
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Australian Censorship program to go ahead - Gillard  supports a the great firewall

Can we all crash a public speaking engagement for Conroy and voice our opinions? 


On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 12:00 PM, Kai < vk6ksj at westnet.com.au > wrote: 


"...Conroy been saying that the industry supports him all the way"? 
When? he's lying, no, sorry, politically correct "misinforming" his colleagues and they haven't figured out that he's wrong? do they have any ear at all on all the industry unhappiness with his idea? 


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Phillip Grasso" < phillip.grasso at gmail.com > 
To: "Shain Singh" < shain.singh at gmail.com > 
Cc: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net 
Sent: Thursday, 8 July, 2010 10:52:28 AM GMT +09:30 Darwin 
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Australian Censorship program to go ahead - Gillard supports a the great firewall 





folks, what is the point of striking when in most regard the telco's/isp's are not in support of filter. That only serves to hurt an ally. 

The focus should be on 
1). Educating the public, 
2). driving political change through education / awareness. 

Anything that has impact to users and business should be avoided at all costs. 

Yes. I have contacted my MP and advised him of this situation, he as others have pointed out unaware of the issues, he just thought that it was to protect the children, but explained passed the surface a tiny bit, he understood the issues better. So it takes advocacy to prompt the right questions. Here's the list http://www.aph.gov.au/house/members/mi-elctr.asp 

Also, something insightful with the discussion with my MP is that Conroy been saying that the industry supports him all the way. DO WE REALLY? 



On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 11:02 AM, Shain Singh < shain.singh at gmail.com > wrote: 




On 8 July 2010 10:53, Noel Butler < noel.butler at ausics.net > wrote: 




But the last thing anyone should do, is tell their users to go read site blah, foo, or bar. 


Agreed. 




They would tend to listen more if their SP sent them a message about what may happen, and suggesting if they don't want to be treated like a 5yo, or be placed in the same class as any other communist dictatorship country, that they, tax paying, voting Australians, could start by directly contacting their Fed MP and telling them so, and, that they will not be accepting the usual templated response rhetoric. 




Makes for an awesome phishing scam don't ya think? Given the audience it would be fairly successful too I'd imagine. 



Shaineel Singh 
e: shain.singh at gmail.com 
p: +61 422 921 951 


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