[AusNOG] What are we , collectively, doing about the impending mandatatory censorship scheme?

[Skeeve Stevens]

Maybe it isn't Family First... but the previous article mentions:

http://www.fava.org.au/


...Skeeve

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net [mailto:ausnog-
> bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Skeeve Stevens
> Sent: Thursday, 8 July 2010 12:24 AM
> To: Matthew Moyle-Croft; Phillip Grasso
> Cc: ausnog at ausnog.net
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] What are we , collectively, doing about the
> impending mandatatory censorship scheme?
> 
> MMC,
> 
> Please don't paint all Christians with the same brush that Family First
> are made from.  I am a Christian who is VERY against it, and most
> Christians I know are.  Problem is that Family First represent a very
> conservative view - but a powerful one.  I don't think they really
> represent the views of most thinking Christians from a political
> perspective... but mostly their own narrow uneducated views on topics.
> 
> ...Skeeve
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> eintellego Pty Ltd - The Networking Specialists
> skeeve at eintellego.net / www.eintellego.net
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> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net [mailto:ausnog-
> > bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Matthew Moyle-Croft
> > Sent: Thursday, 8 July 2010 12:12 AM
> > To: Phillip Grasso
> > Cc: Skeeve Stevens; ausnog at ausnog.net
> > Subject: Re: [AusNOG] What are we , collectively, doing about the
> > impending mandatatory censorship scheme?
> >
> >
> > On 07/07/2010, at 11:22 PM, Phillip Grasso wrote:
> >
> > > its been pretty clear what Google position all along. Why else do
> you
> > think Conroy has it in for Google.
> > >
> > > The problem is that not enough 'outcry' from the industry is there,
> > so Conroy is free to say he's got the support of the industry, with a
> > possibly few big players in his back pocket due to NBN, he can say
> > things such as 'industry consultation/support' etc.
> >
> > I think we could be super organised, with a huge media budget and the
> > Fed Govt wouldn't change their mind before the election.
> >
> > If they did change their mind then the opposition would just use it
> to
> > show (a) they're backing down and not delivering on YET another
> policy
> > (b) not tough on Child Pornography (c) not protecting our kids.
> Which
> > ever of the arguments works the best for TonyA at the time.
> >
> > This isn't a rational argument.  It's clear the Conroy isn't
> interested
> > in rational arguments.   The whole proposal is laughable (heck, I've
> > just come back from the US where we ARE a joke because of this - most
> > people think it's already running!), but still, the
> telecommunications
> > industry is a poor block of votes compared to keeping the
> conservative
> > Christian lobby on side (the people who want this).
> >
> > The focus really needs to be on these things:
> >
> > If Labor is reelected will they claim they have a mandate to
> implement
> > the filter (even if no one voted Labor because of it).   Or will it
> die
> > as a "non-core promise" if Conroy is moved on as telecommunications
> > minister?
> >
> > If the Liberals are elected instead, what will they do?   Will they
> > show sanity and kill it (small-l liberal) or be beholden to the same
> > conservative Christian lobby who have convinced Labor it's a good
> idea.
> >
> > Labor, as above, can't be and won't be able to chance their minds
> > before the election.  The question is - will this be an election
> issue
> > or will we be back to beating up on the vunerable and non-voting
> > refugees again like the tough people we are.   (Must remind
> Christians
> > like TonyA about what Christianity is about - seem to remember a few
> > bits from the Bible from Sunday school and Jesus embracing everyone
> and
> > looking after the poor and destitute, not just some of them - anyway,
> > offtopic).
> >
> > MMC
> >
> >
> >
> >
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