[AusNOG] What are we , collectively, doing about the impending mandatatory censorship scheme?

[Skeeve Stevens]

MMC,

Please don't paint all Christians with the same brush that Family First are made from.  I am a Christian who is VERY against it, and most Christians I know are.  Problem is that Family First represent a very conservative view - but a powerful one.  I don't think they really represent the views of most thinking Christians from a political perspective... but mostly their own narrow uneducated views on topics.

...Skeeve

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net [mailto:ausnog-
> bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Matthew Moyle-Croft
> Sent: Thursday, 8 July 2010 12:12 AM
> To: Phillip Grasso
> Cc: Skeeve Stevens; ausnog at ausnog.net
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] What are we , collectively, doing about the
> impending mandatatory censorship scheme?
> 
> 
> On 07/07/2010, at 11:22 PM, Phillip Grasso wrote:
> 
> > its been pretty clear what Google position all along. Why else do you
> think Conroy has it in for Google.
> >
> > The problem is that not enough 'outcry' from the industry is there,
> so Conroy is free to say he's got the support of the industry, with a
> possibly few big players in his back pocket due to NBN, he can say
> things such as 'industry consultation/support' etc.
> 
> I think we could be super organised, with a huge media budget and the
> Fed Govt wouldn't change their mind before the election.
> 
> If they did change their mind then the opposition would just use it to
> show (a) they're backing down and not delivering on YET another policy
> (b) not tough on Child Pornography (c) not protecting our kids.  Which
> ever of the arguments works the best for TonyA at the time.
> 
> This isn't a rational argument.  It's clear the Conroy isn't interested
> in rational arguments.   The whole proposal is laughable (heck, I've
> just come back from the US where we ARE a joke because of this - most
> people think it's already running!), but still, the telecommunications
> industry is a poor block of votes compared to keeping the conservative
> Christian lobby on side (the people who want this).
> 
> The focus really needs to be on these things:
> 
> If Labor is reelected will they claim they have a mandate to implement
> the filter (even if no one voted Labor because of it).   Or will it die
> as a "non-core promise" if Conroy is moved on as telecommunications
> minister?
> 
> If the Liberals are elected instead, what will they do?   Will they
> show sanity and kill it (small-l liberal) or be beholden to the same
> conservative Christian lobby who have convinced Labor it's a good idea.
> 
> Labor, as above, can't be and won't be able to chance their minds
> before the election.  The question is - will this be an election issue
> or will we be back to beating up on the vunerable and non-voting
> refugees again like the tough people we are.   (Must remind Christians
> like TonyA about what Christianity is about - seem to remember a few
> bits from the Bible from Sunday school and Jesus embracing everyone and
> looking after the poor and destitute, not just some of them - anyway,
> offtopic).
> 
> MMC
> 
> 
> 
> 
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