[AusNOG] What are we , collectively, doing about the impending mandatatory censorship scheme?

[Phillip Grasso]

you raise good points, let me say this;

Senate Seats. Hit them where it hurts.

my back of envelope count is that we'll need 338K votes to get 1 senate
seat.

1 Senate seat will probably be enough to do damage to a filtering program,
especially when they would want to do deals to get other things across
(assuming they don't have an overwhelming majority)

On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 12:11 AM, Matthew Moyle-Croft
<mmc at internode.com.au>wrote:

>
> On 07/07/2010, at 11:22 PM, Phillip Grasso wrote:
>
> > its been pretty clear what Google position all along. Why else do you
> think Conroy has it in for Google.
> >
> > The problem is that not enough 'outcry' from the industry is there, so
> Conroy is free to say he's got the support of the industry, with a possibly
> few big players in his back pocket due to NBN, he can say things such as
> 'industry consultation/support' etc.
>
> I think we could be super organised, with a huge media budget and the Fed
> Govt wouldn't change their mind before the election.
>
> If they did change their mind then the opposition would just use it to show
> (a) they're backing down and not delivering on YET another policy (b) not
> tough on Child Pornography (c) not protecting our kids.  Which ever of the
> arguments works the best for TonyA at the time.
>
> This isn't a rational argument.  It's clear the Conroy isn't interested in
> rational arguments.   The whole proposal is laughable (heck, I've just come
> back from the US where we ARE a joke because of this - most people think
> it's already running!), but still, the telecommunications industry is a poor
> block of votes compared to keeping the conservative Christian lobby on side
> (the people who want this).
>
> The focus really needs to be on these things:
>
> If Labor is reelected will they claim they have a mandate to implement the
> filter (even if no one voted Labor because of it).   Or will it die as a
> "non-core promise" if Conroy is moved on as telecommunications minister?
>
> If the Liberals are elected instead, what will they do?   Will they show
> sanity and kill it (small-l liberal) or be beholden to the same conservative
> Christian lobby who have convinced Labor it's a good idea.
>
> Labor, as above, can't be and won't be able to chance their minds before
> the election.  The question is - will this be an election issue or will we
> be back to beating up on the vunerable and non-voting refugees again like
> the tough people we are.   (Must remind Christians like TonyA about what
> Christianity is about - seem to remember a few bits from the Bible from
> Sunday school and Jesus embracing everyone and looking after the poor and
> destitute, not just some of them - anyway, offtopic).
>
> MMC
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