[AusNOG] Australian Censorship program to go ahead - Gillard supports a the great firewall

Peter Adkins peter.adkins at kernelpicnic.net
Wed Jul 7 23:54:08 EST 2010


Maybe all but the Greens -- I'd imagine that'd get the point across ;)

You'd have to be wary of the repercussions though as it'd most likely end
with having customers complaining; not to it being slightly hypocritical
to oppose filtering... by "filtering".

On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 11:14 PM, Skeeve Stevens <Skeeve at eintellego.net>wrote:

>  I’m just making a suggestion... I’m advocating anything...  I am sure we
> can come up with something drastic.
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> No pain no gain though.... and with enough notice... I am sure that most
> customers would not have an issue... especially if many ISP’s did it.
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> What about blackholing all .gov.au’s? ;-)
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> ...Skeeve
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> --
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> Skeeve Stevens, CEO/Technical Director
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> eintellego Pty Ltd - The Networking Specialists
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> skeeve at eintellego.net / www.eintellego.net
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> Phone: 1300 753 383, Fax: (+612) 8572 9954
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> Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 / skype://skeeve
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> www.linkedin.com/in/skeeve ; facebook.com/eintellego
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> --
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> NOC, NOC, who's there?
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> *From:* Jay Mitchell [mailto:jay at miscreant.org]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 7 July 2010 11:40 PM
> *To:* Skeeve Stevens; ausnog at ausnog.net
> *Cc:* ausnog at ausnog.net
> *Subject:* RE: [AusNOG] Australian Censorship program to go ahead -
> Gillard supports a the great firewall
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> In my imaginary anti-authoritarian world I go to when I listen to my punk
> collection, sure I can imagine this J In my day (and let’s face, it night)
> job I can’t even begin to imagine doing this.
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> As a consumer if my ISP did this, they’d be hearing from me and it wouldn’t
> be pretty.
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> As a network operator, the financial and legal ramifications of an action
> such as this don’t bear thinking about.
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> Let’s think about this from another angle. What do other industries do when
> they want politicians to take or desist from a course of action? They lobby.
> Now lobbying doesn’t need to be about cash (unless you’re the tobacco/gun
> toting kind of folk). What about finding MP’s sympathetic to your cause and
> using them to voice your opinion/ideas/concerns? By the people for the
> people?
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> Just my $0.05 ;)
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> *From:* ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net [mailto:
> ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] *On Behalf Of *Skeeve Stevens
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 7 July 2010 11:17 PM
> *To:* Bevan Slattery; Phillip Grasso; ausnog at ausnog.net
> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] Australian Censorship program to go ahead -
> Gillard supports a the great firewall
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> <snip>
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> Imagine if a LOT of ISP’s agreed on an ‘Internet Black Out Day’ – where we
> gave a couple of weeks notice and then for a whole day or just hours,
> shutdown ALL user connectivity – that would be front page everywhere...  and
> let people know WHY – because the government was wanting to censor the
> internet.  If you affected tens of thousands of people for a period it would
> turn a lot of people against the government and create a lot of awareness.
> But do you think we would/could be brave enough to take such a drastic
> action? Doubtful.... We’re not that brave enough to get out of our comfort
> zone – we have shareholders and boards and customers we can’t possibly
> upset.  I doubt too many people would leave if they understood why we did
> it.  Since when was something worth fighting for without some cost?
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> <snip>
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> That said, I love you all – peace out ;-)
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> ...Skeeve
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> --
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> Skeeve Stevens, CEO/Technical Director
>
> eintellego Pty Ltd - The Networking Specialists
>
> skeeve at eintellego.net / www.eintellego.net
>
> Phone: 1300 753 383, Fax: (+612) 8572 9954
>
> Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 / skype://skeeve
>
> www.linkedin.com/in/skeeve ; facebook.com/eintellego
>
> --
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> NOC, NOC, who's there?
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-- 
Peter Adkins

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