Maybe all but the Greens -- I'd imagine that'd get the point across ;)<div><br></div><div>You'd have to be wary of the repercussions though as it'd most likely end with having customers complaining; not to it being slightly hypocritical to oppose filtering... by "filtering".</div>
<div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 11:14 PM, Skeeve Stevens <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Skeeve@eintellego.net">Skeeve@eintellego.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">I’m just making a suggestion... I’m advocating
anything... I am sure we can come up with something drastic.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">No pain no gain though.... and with enough notice... I am sure
that most customers would not have an issue... especially if many ISP’s
did it.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">What about blackholing all .gov.au’s? ;-)</span></p><div class="im">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">...Skeeve</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#002060">--</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#002060">Skeeve Stevens, CEO/Technical Director</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#002060">NOC, NOC, who's there?</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt"> Jay Mitchell [mailto:<a href="mailto:jay@miscreant.org" target="_blank">jay@miscreant.org</a>] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 7 July 2010 11:40 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Skeeve Stevens; <a href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@ausnog.net</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@ausnog.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [AusNOG] Australian Censorship program to go ahead -
Gillard supports a the great firewall</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">In my imaginary anti-authoritarian world I go to when I listen
to my punk collection, sure I can imagine this </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D">J</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> In my day (and
let’s face, it night) job I can’t even begin to imagine doing this.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">As a consumer if my ISP did this, they’d be hearing from
me and it wouldn’t be pretty.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">As a network operator, the financial and legal ramifications of
an action such as this don’t bear thinking about.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Let’s think about this from another angle. What do other
industries do when they want politicians to take or desist from a course of
action? They lobby. Now lobbying doesn’t need to be about cash (unless
you’re the tobacco/gun toting kind of folk). What about finding
MP’s sympathetic to your cause and using them to voice your opinion/ideas/concerns?
By the people for the people?</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Just my $0.05 ;)</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt"> <a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Skeeve Stevens<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 7 July 2010 11:17 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Bevan Slattery; Phillip Grasso; <a href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@ausnog.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] Australian Censorship program to go ahead -
Gillard supports a the great firewall</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><snip></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Imagine if a LOT of ISP’s agreed on an ‘Internet
Black Out Day’ – where we gave a couple of weeks notice and then
for a whole day or just hours, shutdown ALL user connectivity – that
would be front page everywhere... and let people know WHY – because
the government was wanting to censor the internet. If you affected tens
of thousands of people for a period it would turn a lot of people against the
government and create a lot of awareness. But do you think we would/could
be brave enough to take such a drastic action? Doubtful.... We’re not
that brave enough to get out of our comfort zone – we have shareholders
and boards and customers we can’t possibly upset. I doubt too many
people would leave if they understood why we did it. Since when was
something worth fighting for without some cost?</span></p>
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<snip></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">That
said, I love you all – peace out ;-)</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">...Skeeve</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#002060">--</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#002060">Skeeve Stevens, CEO/Technical Director</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#002060">eintellego Pty Ltd - The Networking Specialists</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#002060"><a href="mailto:skeeve@eintellego.net" target="_blank">skeeve@eintellego.net</a>
/ <a href="http://www.eintellego.net" target="_blank">www.eintellego.net</a></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#002060">Phone: 1300 753 383, Fax: (+612) 8572 9954</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#002060">Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 / skype://skeeve</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#002060"><a href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/skeeve" target="_blank">www.linkedin.com/in/skeeve</a>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#002060">NOC, NOC, who's there?</span></p>
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