[AusNOG] Less than 10% of IPv4 Addresses Remain Unallocated
Nathan Gardiner
ngardiner at gmail.com
Fri Jan 22 13:24:06 EST 2010
I'm sure it's no revolutionary idea, but the provision of additional
spectrum to broadcasters as part of the digital TV rollout, and consequently
the availability of extra content through digital recievers has likely done
a lot to promote uptake - I read this morning that 44% of Australian viewers
have digtal recievers (in reference to ABC's planned news channel), which is
very significant given the size of the market.
Without actually having concrete details I'd think that in any way those
with an interest in IPv6 adoption could subsidise specific content or
services available exclusively over IPv6, it would at least provide some
incentive for CPE vendors and consumers to make the change. I'm aware that
my ISP offers dual-stack connectivity and while I'll get around to replacing
my CPE eventually I can't say that alone is much of an incentive to
spend extra for compatible CPE right now.
Nathan
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 12:23 PM, Dasmo <dasmo at dasmo.net> wrote:
> Sure there was, ISPs were only giving out one IP address, they wanted to
> share their internet connection with more than one computer. Why did windows
> 98 introduce the internet connection sharing feature then? NAT was a feature
> customers wanted, IPv6 is not, because they don't know they need it.
>
> If they can get youtube and there are workarounds implemented, people don't
> care. Moving forward we all need to understand this.
>
>
> On 22/01/2010, at 12:17 PM, Curtis Bayne wrote:
>
> There was never a customer demand for NAT - it was just something that
> CPE vendors implemented because there was no other choice - it was in their
> best interests to do so for the contiguity of their product.
>
> This is no different.
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Newton [mailto:newton at internode.com.au<newton at internode.com.au>
> ]
> Sent: Fri 1/22/2010 10:19 AM
> To: Curtis Bayne
> Cc: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Less than 10% of IPv4 Addresses Remain Unallocated
>
>
> On 22/01/2010, at 10:00 AM, Curtis Bayne wrote:
>
> > The technology required to implement v6 on the NBN is available TODAY.
> >
> We have customers in our trial on FTTH networks today :)
>
> > You can start developing strategies around currently available hardware
> TODAY. You can draft a migration strategy TODAY. You can bring v6 into your
> core TODAY. There may be no consumer demand yet, but one day there will be:
> don't be caught with your pants down.
> >
>
> Apart from CPE, another missing element is the CGN boxes we'll all need
> to keep IPv4 limping along.
>
> When you're talking to CPE vendors about missing v6 support, don't
> forget to keep banging on the major equipment vendors about the bits
> of the picture they aren't providing yet. It's tremendously irresponsible
> for
> the majors to spend the last 10 - 15 years in IETF working groups
> arguing about how IPv6 is supposed to work, then, when crunch time comes,
> innocently claim total ignorance about the timeframes and pretend that
> they've been completely blindsided by new IPv6 requirements.
>
> Vapourware doesn't cut it, and at this late stage any vendor who says,
> "There's
> no customer demand" should be LARTed from orbit. That's no longer an
> acceptable response to anything related to the Internet's IPv6 transition.
>
>
> - mark
>
>
>
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