[AusNOG] Less than 10% of IPv4 Addresses Remain Unallocated

[Mark Smith]

On Fri, 22 Jan 2010 08:16:51 +1000
Noel Butler <noel.butler at ausics.net> wrote:

> On Thu, 2010-01-21 at 12:28 +1100, James Spenceley wrote:
> 
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > > 
> > > Yep, and I still stand by at _LEAST_ 2015 before we seriously get close to looking like running out of ipv4, maybe longer than that.
> > > There's around 400 million IP's stilll up for grabs.
> > 
> > and how many phones/computer will connect to the Indian and Chinese Internet in the next year ?
> > 
> 
> 
> How many connected last year...
> 4 x /8's issued to APNIC 
> 4 x /8's issued to RIPE
> 
> 
> I'm well aware that the majority of vocal people on this list are
> supporters of  ipv6,
> I just have an investigative mind, in other words,
> I do think some here are hyping things up for their own agenda, just
> like those did back in 90's.
> 

It's not that. It's that some people are arrogant enought to believe
they can make more accurate IPv4 addressing exhaustion predictions with
no more than 5 seconds thought than the organisations (RIRs) who's job
is to manage the IPv4 address space, and who have many years data to
backup their predictions.




> I mean, talking about ripping off end users more money because they use
> ipv4 like Skeeve brought up, pleaaseeeee, , you try to force everyone
> onto ipv6, then there's going to plenty of spare ipv4 in APNIC's pool
> isn't there, so no problem for the ISP's that wont rip them off  :)
> 
> So apart from the noise makers on this list beating their chest about
> it, is anyone actually in serious talks with CPE vendors,  how about
> retailers? find some cluey retailers and get them to push vendors as
> well, after all, that's where this needs to start.
> 
> As someone else mentioned, the vast majority of end users don't care,
> they will not sit down and google it, they will not read white papers or
> RFC's about it, they have no desire to learn squat about it, all they
> want is for the Internet to work, existing customers and in  next few
> years or so should easily be serviced by ipv4, it's the newbie from
> nearing then, the ones who go out and buy brand new CPE because its
> their first, or their existing one got blow to hell in a storm that
> needs to be targeted towards ipv6 capable CPE.
> 
> 
> Cheers
>