[AusNOG] Less than 10% of IPv4 Addresses Remain Unallocated
Steve Lisson
SteveL at dedicatedservers.net.au
Thu Jan 21 13:57:00 EST 2010
Maybe we can get CGN built into the internet filtering devices we are
all going to need ;)
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Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Less than 10% of IPv4 Addresses Remain Unallocated
All,
My thoughts is users will get a choice. They will be offered:
1) Go behind carrier grade NAT for no cost change - and can have a
no-NAT v6 address
2) Have a live v4 and v6 address for an extra few $ per month.
...Skeeve
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Sent: Thu Jan 21 11:57:22 2010
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Less than 10% of IPv4 Addresses Remain Unallocated
I think you'll see nat before you see raised prices, and the problem
with that is a lot of the end users won't know the difference.
On 21/01/2010, at 11:50 AM, Tom Lanyon wrote:
>
> On 21/01/2010, at 11:07 AM, Geoff Huston wrote:
>> What tends to get tractions with vendors, large and small, is
purchase orders! The problem is that for CPE its not the ISP that
conventionally buys the CPE, its the end users who head to their local
retail outlet online or in the store and buy the (cheapest) unit they
can get their hands on, and, unfortunately, no IPv6 is included in their
requirements in general. So unless the ISP wants to package up the CPE
and include devices that fold in a good implementation of IPv6 (such as
the rather cool FRITZ!Box from germany, and the extremely capable but
somewhat pricey for the home consumer Cisco 877 offering), then nothing
happens.
>
> So how long until we see ISPs raising prices on access plans via an
IPv4 address levy and offering discounted rates for users who can
support IPv6? If it's a significant difference in their monthly access
fee, it will put IPv6 on that end-users' requirements list when shopping
for a CPE.
>
> Tom
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