[AusNOG] [off-topic] PA Fuel Cells instead of generators forredundant power - anyone doing this?

Bill Walker Bill.Walker at staff.snap.net.nz
Wed Jan 13 09:25:31 EST 2010


Flywheel for UPS?

http://www.pentadyne.com/site/flywheel-ups/specifications.html

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From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net [ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Bob Purdon [Bob.Purdon at staff.pipenetworks.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 13 January 2010 11:04 a.m.
To: Curtis Bayne; ausnog at ausnog.net
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] [off-topic] PA Fuel Cells instead of generators   forredundant power - anyone doing this?

It's an interesting idea, and seems to have come along a bit since I
last looked at fuel cell technologies.

The last system I looked at was purely a Hydrogen system, and IIRC, its
footprint was quite substantial for a small power output.  This one,
while still hydrogen based, seems to be much more efficient (insofar as
you get a lot more power vs size).

The other interesting idea for datacentres with UPS systems is the use
of NiMH batteries.  Smaller, sustain more discharge cycles & reportedly
much more reliable than VRLA/SLA.  Less thermal runaway risk, and less
lead :-)

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> [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Curtis Bayne
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> To: ausnog at ausnog.net
> Subject: [AusNOG] [off-topic] PA Fuel Cells instead of
> generators forredundant power - anyone doing this?
>
> AusNOG,
>
> Is anyone using fuel cells instead of generators for
> redundant power? I've been doing some research over the past
> few days and dependent on bypass/startup time (nobody can
> give me a straight answer here) one could possibly eliminate
> a UPS entirely?
>
> For the non-believers, check this out:
> http://www.utcpower.com/fs/com/bin/fs_com_Page/0,11491,0122,00.html
>
> It also appears as if Verizon are using them in one of their
> facilities (according to
> http://www.utcpower.com/fs/com/bin/fs_com_Page/0,11491,0260,00.html)
>
> Regards,
> Curtis
>
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