[AusNOG] [off-topic] Samsung Galaxy S

[Phil Pierotti]

Enough Already!

I am going to say it, because clearly the sensible ones have all managed to "have annual leave" at this time and are not checking their emails.

If you KNEW well enough that the topic you wanted to open for discussion was OFF TOPIC enough that you needed to say it in the subject, they CLEARLY you knew that THIS is NOT the appropriate forum for discussing said TOPIC.

At what point does this mailing list become 99% "OFF TOPIC - but my cat is pregnant and I dunno what to do - no seriously my cat has a WIFI CHIP so it's OPERATIONAL" and 1% *anything* to do with networking.

Sure "smartphones have network access" these days, but the VAST and OVERWHELMING MAJORITY of this recent thread have NOT been ANYTHING to do with Australian Network Operations. (sorry guys, I'll suggest that mobile networks is some other mailing list).

Think before you click, or people will realise that your phone is smarter than you are.

Phil P
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From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net [ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Ryan Verner [ryan at uanywhere.com.au]
Sent: Friday, 31 December 2010 12:11 PM
To: James Hodgkinson
Cc: ausnog at ausnog.net
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] [off-topic] Samsung Galaxy S

On 30/12/2010, at 19:47 , James Hodgkinson wrote:
> I guess the question I have is... How reversible are things like the voodoo fix et al? I don't mind my phone but it would be hard to turn down an opportunity at getting more battery life and less application related lag...

Very reversible; installation is a ridiculously simple procedure of putting a zip file onto the phone, and rebooting it holding down a few buttons and selecting an option.  You do exactly the same thing to reverse it.

On 31/12/2010, at 24:22 , Kai wrote:
> I got to to the "Kies update" window in the guide they have, nowhere
> does it mention that the update is around 80meg...but anyway, it
> downloads version 1.5.3.10103_102, dunno if that's any different to what
> anyone else has but I hope it makes a difference.

Is the latest update the absolute latest firmware from the manufacturer, or is it Virgin's latest firmware for the phone?  Don't underestimate carriers abilities to completely fsck up phones via stupid customisations on outdated firmware :-/

Tried flashing a generic firmware?  (That said, I'm kind of with the previous comments that this kind of stuffing around shouldn't be necessary).

> One thing I don't like about all these Android devices though, they all
> require a GMail account to sync, even basic stuff like calendar's aren't
> avaiable unless you sync. Google already has enough search info, they
> don't ALSO need my calender, contacts and everything else!

I held off buying an Android phone for ages because I thought this, but this isn't true; I sync everything happily with my Exchange server, and I'm fairly sure the local calendar works without a Gmail account.  I have one attached to the phone, but it is used for very little.

R

> Anyway, finished the guide at that URL, doesn't get me any further than
> where I already am - with a phone that's currently only really useful as
> a paperweight, so, time to call Virgin tomorrow and see what they will do.
>
> Cheers
> Kai


> On 30/12/2010 5:52 PM, "Joe Cozzupoli" <cozzupj at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi Kai,
> >
> > Sorry to throw a spanner in the works but I would definitely go for the
> > Nexus S
> >
> > http://www.google.com/phone/detail/nexus-s
> >
> > <http://www.google.com/phone/detail/nexus-s>If you look around online, you
> > would be able to buy it outright for around $800AUD. The benefits of this is
> > that firmware upgrades go to you straight away, unlike HTC or
> > other manufacturer Android phones where they have to brand the firmware
> > upgrade before pushing it out.
> >
> > Also, I've been using the BlackBerry 9780 for a month now, its great. Runs
> > OS6 so all nice and clean and bug free (so far).
> >
> > Just something else to consider.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Joe Cozzupoli.
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 6:06 PM, Kai <vk6ksj at westnet.com.au> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Ryan,
> >>
> >> I visited our only Telstra shop today, they're a franchise but they have
> >> the HTC Desire, Nokia N8 and Samsung Galaxy S (2.1-update firmware) and
> >> they said they've sold quite a few Samsung's with absolutely no problem,
> >> so I showed the sales rep mine, he played with it for a bit,
> >> acknowledged it is slow but that he hasn't seen any issues with the
> >> one's they've sold.
> >>
> >> My phone's spec:
> >> Model GT-I9000
> >> Firmware 2.2
> >> Baseband version: I9000DTJP3
> >> Kernel: 2.6.32.9
> >> Build: FROYO.DTJP5
> >>
> >> I note Telstra's phone has 2.1-update firmware, mine has 2.2 but runs
> >> really badly.
> >>
> >> I don't want to root my phone, shouldn't need to when it's only three
> >> months old, but I'll read some more about the voodoo fix.
> >>
> >> It's 3pm here, Sydney is three hours ahead of us, I'll ring Virgin
> >> tomorrow, try to talk to the front line customer service staff and see
> >> if I can get anywhere...
> >>
> >> Cheers
> >> Kai
> >>
> >> On 30/12/10 14:43, Ryan Verner wrote:
> >> > I'm extremely surprised by the opinions here; I own a I9000T (Telstra
> >> branded model), and I love the phone - I'm a hopeless gadget geek who seems
> >> to regularly change phones. I don't intend on changing this handset for
> >> some time.
> >> >
> >> > I had read about the issues people were having (terrible battery life,
> >> GPS, reboots, lag), but I'm having none of them with the base 2.1 Telstra
> >> ROM and voodoo fix; average battery life of 1-2 days (screen brightness
> >> lowest, Exchange sync on, sync everything else turned off), GPS works
> >> flawlessly, unit is always responsive.
> >> >
> >> > Battery life definitely could be better, but several HTC handsets I
> >> tested were worse; seems to be the achilles heel of Android phones in
> >> general currently.
> >> >
> >> > I've always pondered whether the Telstra firmware had a bunch of
> >> manufacturer fixes the Optus branded ones didn't have; the build date on the
> >> shipped ROM is very recent ('2.1-update').
> >> >
> >> > Have you guys tried updating to 2.2? Maybe the issue is the shipping
> >> firmware on the Optus handsets is total junk?
> >> >
> >> > R
> >> >
> >> > On 29/12/2010, at 20:33 , Kai wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Hahaa, I'm on two year contract with the Galaxy S, I can't just throw it
> >> >> out, even though I'd love to. I read Andrew Fort's email, I found the
> >> >> only spot in the house with good enough reception for data connection (I
> >> >> -think- it's the best spot..but the signal meter on this phone isn't
> >> >> reliable anymore) and downloading ROM Manager, then I'll try step 2 and
> >> >> fingers crossed that works 'cause it's gunna suck if I'm contracted to
> >> >> this phone for another year and nine months :S
> >> >>
> >> >> My VirginMobile plan is good but this phone sux balls!
> >> >>
> >> >> So why'd I get one? well, my old Nokia was dying, needed a replacement,
> >> >> thought I'd give smartphones a go since it allows me to check weather
> >> >> radar and stuff when I'm storm chasing, didn't want an iPhone, figured
> >> >> I'd try the Samsung... and my old Nokia got stolen about a month after I
> >> >> got the Samsung.
> >> >>
> >> >> I've been using Nokia for the last eight years, first time I've used
> >> >> Samsung hasn't left a good taste in my mouth!
> >> >>
> >> >> Cheers
> >> >> Kai
> >> >>
> >> >> On 29/12/10 17:36, Darren Moss wrote:
> >> >>> Yep, that looks just like mine.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Go buy one and junk the other thing.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Spend less time getting the thing to work and more time actually using
> >> it.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Sounds like an ad.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> :)
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Regards,
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Darren Moss
> >> >>> General Manager
> >> >>> Australia and New Zealand
> >> >>>
> >> >>> em3 People and Technology, Managed Technology Experts.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> [p] 1300 131 083 extension 105 [f] 03 9017 2287
> >> >>> [e] Darren.Moss at em3.com.au [w] www.em3.com.au
> >> >>> PO Box 2333, Moorabbin VIC 3189
> >> >>>
> >> >>> New Zealand Airedale Street, Auckland City
> >> >>> [p] 0800 888 285 [f] 09 887 0273
> >> >>> PO Box 39573, Howick 2045
> >> >>>
> >> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >> >>> From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net [mailto:
> >> ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Kai
> >> >>> Sent: Wednesday, 29 December 2010 8:33 PM
> >> >>> To: ausnog at ausnog.net
> >> >>> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] [off-topic] Samsung Galaxy S
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Hey Darren,
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Hahahaaa, for some reason I was expecting at least some reassuring
> >> >>> feedback that there's a fix for all this. In all the browsing I've done
> >> >>> in the last month I can't find one reliable resolution for this bloody
> >> >>> phone.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I don't wanna jailbreak/root it, that'll void the warranty, I'm tempted
> >> >>> to ask Virgin for an exchange with Nokia N8 or maybe HTC but the
> >> >>> likelihood they'll actually exchange it is 0, none or bugger all.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> My Kies CD and Samsung data cable got stolen when my car got broken
> >> into
> >> >>> in Darwin, I've been trying to get the phone to behave itself on
> >> >>> Bluetooth but either the machine doesn't want to talk to the phone or
> >> >>> vice versa 'cause they can see each other, but they can't pair and Kies
> >> >>> tells me there are no Bluetooth devices available. FFS. Anyway, I'm
> >> back
> >> >>> in Broome and managed to find the USB cable that fits the Samsung,
> >> >>> downloaded and installed Kies, backed up, upgraded firmware....but yep,
> >> >>> still crashes randomly, email doesn't know if it's coming or going, and
> >> >>> recently it says it can't send sms until a service is available even
> >> >>> though I have four signal bars displaying. Keh?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I think I've got a snowflakes chance in hell to get a replacement,
> >> >>> Virgin customer service staff are 99% outsourced, and with no offence
> >> to
> >> >>> outsourced staff, if it's not in their script they don't know what to
> >> do
> >> >>> so I end up on hold for ages, like I did last weekend.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I used my cousins Nokia N8 on the weekend, it looked ok but then again
> >> >>> anything would look ok compared to the Galaxy S. That said, I asked on
> >> >>> another mailing list and one user replied she's got hers last month and
> >> >>> she loves it, hehe, lucky her, mine sux!
> >> >>>
> >> >>> You like the BB Torch9800?
> >> >>> http://us.blackberry.com/smartphones/blackberrytorch/
> >> >>>
> >> >>> It has a REAL keypad, I like it already :P what are the screen
> >> dimensions?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Cheers
> >> >>> Kai
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On 29/12/10 17:13, Darren Moss wrote:
> >> >>>> Hey Kai,
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> If I had a dollar for every complaint we've received regarding the
> >> Samsung Galaxy phone......
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> We've had a few of these connected up on our Hosted Exchange platform
> >> and the customers have the same complaints:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> 1. Poor battery life (number 1 problem - lucky to get 8 hours)
> >> >>>> 2. Crashing and hanging
> >> >>>> 3. Phone restarts at random
> >> >>>> 4. Slow to pick up mail (even when in push mode)
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> We fixed some with Voda via firmware upgrade, but the bottom line was
> >> they were just too painful.
> >> >>>> There were too many "issues" and we couldn't get any real information
> >> from the telco or the vendor - similar to the old Nokia e75 handsets which
> >> were a disaster.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> I thought that the handset could not possibly be that bad, so I bought
> >> one in November. It's sitting in a box at my Melbourne office after 1 week
> >> of use. Even the staff didn't want it after hearing my complaining.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Now I have a BB Torch - the best handset I have ever owned without a
> >> doubt (upgraded from BB Bold). It actually works, is fast and reliable.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> HTH.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Regards,
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Darren Moss
> >> >>>> General Manager
> >> >>>> Australia and New Zealand
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> em3 People and Technology, Managed Technology Experts.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> [p] 1300 131 083 extension 105 [f] 03 9017 2287
> >> >>>> [e] Darren.Moss at em3.com.au [w] www.em3.com.au
> >> >>>> PO Box 2333, Moorabbin VIC 3189
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> New Zealand Airedale Street, Auckland City
> >> >>>> [p] 0800 888 285 [f] 09 887 0273
> >> >>>> PO Box 39573, Howick 2045
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >> >>>> From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net [mailto:
> >> ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Kai
> >> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, 29 December 2010 8:02 PM
> >> >>>> To: ausnog at ausnog.net
> >> >>>> Subject: [AusNOG] [off-topic] Samsung Galaxy S
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Hi guys and girls,
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> I hope you all had a great Christmas, I did! No prezzies, well no
> >> >>>> conventional prezzies, I had time with my family/friends for
> >> Christmas,
> >> >>>> that's all I wanted! :)
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Sorry for the off-topic post, I wanted to ask everyone's valued
> >> opinions
> >> >>>> but feel free to reply off list with feedback.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Last Monday Broome's Optus repeater had issues and they had to get
> >> parts
> >> >>>> up from Perth (thanks to Chris Brown for the info), coincidentally
> >> >>>> that's also when my Samsung decided to play silly buggers. I initially
> >> >>>> thought there may be issues with Optus Broome repeater here because I
> >> >>>> have fluctuating signal strength meter readings when standing under
> >> the
> >> >>>> Optus repeater here, but, overall, the most annoying thing is random
> >> >>>> black screens and general slow performance.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Similar to the trouble this lady is having:
> >> >>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cB1b0UrX9e0
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Problems are intermittant enough to be annoying, ie I can't reproduce
> >> on
> >> >>>> cue but my phone is less than three months old, I expect it to work. I
> >> >>>> backed up my contacts and did a firmware upgrade last week, still
> >> >>>> doesn't work properley.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Anyone got similar issues?
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> In case anyone does have similar issues my details are:
> >> >>>> Model GT-I9000
> >> >>>> Firmware 2.2
> >> >>>> Baseband version: I9000DTJP3
> >> >>>> Kernel: 2.6.32.9
> >> >>>> Build: FROYO.DTJP5
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> I am with VirginMobile, they use Optus mobile network.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Cheers
> >> >>>> Kai
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