[AusNOG] Urgent - Pacnet NOC contact (with BGP clue)

[Cee Four]

Skeeves and AusNOG members,

Before naming names we should all look at the possibility of resolving disputes through the judicial system rather then vilification on a public mailing list.

AusNOG from what I understood was a respected community containing professionals from the IT Industry, now it seems that this is thrown out the window for more of a "Fight club" style of dirty punches.

Seeing as the current participants in this thread want more information lets put some more on the table;

Lets look at the creditability of the thread creator. Correct me if I am wrong Skeeve but is the below not you?

http://www.afp.gov.au/media-centre/publications/platypus/previous-editions/1998/june-1998/computer.aspx
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CTOF-QX2Pw
http://www.phrack.org/issues.html?issue=53&id=14

"A computer hacker who tried to destroy an Internet company that refused to hire him was jailed for 18 months today for offences that include 
publishing customer credit card numbers."

Interesting to say the least. Like Karl said "Loose cannons aren't meant to be trusted"

With regards to respectable companies like PACNET. Why drag them into this when clearly you Skeeve stated that this was related to a "billing dispute".

@Scott Howard - "How much more is there to this story that you haven't passed on?"

Obviously a lot. 

@Karl Auer - "There is a lesson in this for all of us: When arranging contracts,
ensure that network resources that are the property of or under the
administrative control of your company (as distinct from under the
operational control of your company) are specifically excluded from any
actions the other party is permitted to take in case of dispute."

I'd have to agree with you on this. Contracts should be read... Is this not why we have those wonderful people who are called lawyers, who enjoy there exorbitant fees.

@ Karl Kloppenborg - "show us the proof where it stated in the contracts that AINS had the right to take control of resource allocations / objects and properties"

I would of thought this would not be possible as most respectable organisations would of had a Non-Disclosure Agreement in place.

@ Marcus Emanuel - "Just announce the AINS's entire list of BGP routes to your IP transit provider" 

I wouldn't be suggesting such drastic actions especially seeing as the last time Skeeve took revenge against a company it gave him 18 months in the slammer.

In closing, leave your dirty laundry out of AusNOG. Why bring the content within these mailing list to such a level that I would expect from juviniles.

-C4 ( just my 2c )
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