[AusNOG] NBN Legislation

[Skeeve Stevens]

Well, they aren't the political party or even the business guys... many of them are 'us'... and are guys from carriers like RequestDSL, PowerTel, Nextgen, Telstra Wholesale.

In my meetings and communications with them I've been surprise just how learned they are... and just how many options they've considered in their final solution.  These guys don't seem to make decisions lightly.

Exactly.. just doing their jobs... and these players are excellent... the game is a little unfortunate though.


...Skeeve

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Curtis Bayne [mailto:curtis at bayne.com.au]
> Sent: Wednesday, 1 December 2010 12:04 PM
> To: Skeeve Stevens; Matthew Moyle-Croft; Steve Lisson
> Cc: ausnog at ausnog.net
> Subject: RE: [AusNOG] NBN Legislation
> 
> Skeeve,
> 
> I am not sure if I speak for everyone here, but I am pretty sure most
> of us have no issues with NBNCo themselves (they seem very learned and
> reasonable) but with the regulatory environment created by the
> government itself.
> 
> They're just doing their jobs - don't hate the player, hate the game.
> 
> Curtis
> 
> Sent from my HTC Touch Pro
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Skeeve Stevens <Skeeve at eintellego.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, 1 December 2010 10:51 AM
> To: Matthew Moyle-Croft <mmc at internode.com.au>; Steve Lisson
> <SteveL at dedicatedservers.net.au>
> Cc: ausnog at ausnog.net List <ausnog at ausnog.net>
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] NBN Legislation
> 
> Hey Steve,
> 
> We too have had multiple meetings with NBNCo, even taken some potential
> RSP customers in and had technical deep dives which have been awesome
> in helping to understand their intentions.  These guys are quite open
> and willing to convey anything to anyone who asks.  Most of the
> information you'd want to know now is public as well.
> 
> I don't blame them for not being more active on AusNOG though, with the
> anti-sentiment towards NBNCo by some, they're unlikely to have time to
> constantly defend themselves... but I'm sure if you emailed some of
> them (go through the archive) you'd find them.
> 
> 
> ...Skeeve
> 
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> Skeeve Stevens, CEO
> eintellego Pty Ltd - The Networking Specialists
> skeeve at eintellego.net / www.eintellego.net
> Phone: 1300 753 383, Fax: (+612) 8572 9954
> Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 / skype://skeeve
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> 
> From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net [mailto:ausnog-
> bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Matthew Moyle-Croft
> Sent: Wednesday, 1 December 2010 10:53 AM
> To: Steve Lisson
> Cc: ausnog at ausnog.net List
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] NBN Legislation
> 
> 
> On 01/12/2010, at 2:05 AM, Steve Lisson wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> For starters, I will note that the NBN people have not had its
> operations group active on this list and would have loved to have seen
> that, I see that as a flaw (just like people keep on going on about
> lack of 'business case'), they have not been open, but I can also see
> that as a result of the government taking control of an issue and the
> people working for said NBN Co being at the whim of the government,
> that is part of the cost of the government taking control of such an
> issue like this.
> 
> So, this comes down to - "they haven't asked me so I don't understand
> and feel left out"?
> 
> At a product and technical level we've got the other problem - they've
> been asking for meetings almost every week (feels like it - probably a
> couple of times a month at the moment) where we go through a whole
> range of things and they ask us our opinions on various options.
> We've spent days going through this stuff to ensure it works for us and
> others as well.
> 
> Did you go along to any of their briefing sessons?  Have you read the
> bits on their website?  Have you called them and asked to have a chat
> if you're likely to be an RSP?   I can point you (offlist) to the right
> people if you want.
> 
> My experience so far has been people who have clue asking the right
> questions and being ready to listen to what we've got to say.   Who
> then think about it and come back with more questions and/or making
> sure they understand what we've said.
> 
> MMC