[AusNOG] background radiation was: "i want a pony!" (wasRe:Longlive the NBN. The NBN is dead?! [personal])

[Curtis Bayne]

The NBN isn't free: instead of customers paying a price which reflects the type of service they require combined with the cost of delivering the service, every single Australian taxpayer foots the bill of delivering these services regardless of how much they want/need it.


-----Original Message-----
From: Matthew Moyle-Croft [mailto:mmc at internode.com.au]
Sent: Thu 8/12/2010 4:17 PM
To: Curtis Bayne
Cc: craig at askings.com.au; ausnog at ausnog.net
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] background radiation was: "i want a pony!" (wasRe:Longlive the NBN. The NBN is dead?! [personal])
 
So,
You're arguing against the NBN because your customers might get a better deal?

MMC

On 12/08/2010, at 3:19 PM, Curtis Bayne wrote:


Of course I don't - Telstra aren't scary.

Telstra need to justify this investment to their shareholders, fund their steamrolling expeditions out of cashflow, are bound by normal carrier privileges and will probably just throw down a few token DSLAMs about the place because that's how they (truck/rick)roll. Maybe turn up a few extra NextG channels for good luck and call the job done.

...and they'll price themselves out of the small to medium enterprise market.

NBNCo, on the other hand, will directly target each and every one of my customers, install infrastructure into their premises on an opt-out basis and deliver it at a price point which no cashflow-funded entity in this country that I can think of can compete with.

The latter scares me far more!


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Subject: Re: [AusNOG] background radiation was: "i want a pony!" (wasRe:Long live the NBN. The NBN is dead?! [personal])

Curtis Bayne wrote:
> Perhaps I'm over analyzing the question, or unsure of what exactly
you're
> asking.
>
> Regulatory certainty in this context is simple: a guarantee that a
government-owned entity with practically limitless capital and with
super-carrier privileges won't steamroll my regional telco deployment
into
> financial oblivion.

Do you want them to ban Telstra from overbuilding you as well? Prior to
the NBN being a glimmer in Conroy's eye, if you built any kind of regional
Customer Access Network in an under-served area Telstra would come in and
try and steam roll you.

I'm sure there are a few people on this list that have seen that first
hand, perhaps somewhere in South East regional part of SA????

Craig.





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