[AusNOG] background radiation was: "i want a pony!" (was Re:Long live the NBN. The NBN is dead?! [personal])

[Curtis Bayne]

Beyond 1Mbps and with appropriate latency a Citrix session is indistinguishable from a local host.

There are many regional mining companies with 4Mbps/4Mbps ATM circuits from Telstra with 100-400 thin clients hanging off the end who have great success. 

A 1.5Mbps DSL circuit is perfectly suitable for teleworking.

-----Original Message-----
From: Daniel Hood [mailto:dsmhood at gmail.com]
Sent: Thu 8/12/2010 10:11 AM
To: Curtis Bayne
Cc: Andrew Oskam; Tom Sykes; ausnog at ausnog.net
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] background radiation was: "i want a pony!" (was Re:Long live the NBN. The NBN is dead?! [personal])
 
Fine and at normal speed are two very different things.

On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 10:06 AM, Curtis Bayne <curtis at bayne.com.au> wrote:
> Citrix runs perfectly fine under 512Kbps, ensuring latency is less than
> 100ms end-to-end.
>
> I used to do this over VodafoneAU GPRS many moons ago...
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net on behalf of Daniel Hood
> Sent: Thu 8/12/2010 9:57 AM
> To: Andrew Oskam
> Cc: Tom Sykes; ausnog at ausnog.net
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] background radiation was: "i want a pony!" (was
> Re:Long live the NBN. The NBN is dead?! [personal])
>
> Yea come on guys.
>
> Botnet providers would only need maybe 10 bots to successfully bring
> down a 100mbit datacenter connection without the bot infected pc
> owners finding out.
>
> Or even better, you could brute force a data center server and have
> the only bottleneck being both end-points processors, no longer the
> slow 6mbit DSL or such.
>
> Think of the positives guys!
>
> But more importantly. I like the fact that I could actually get
> employee's to start working properly from home. E.G, they have a
> netbook loaded up with just a thin client then they have their work
> pc, that they can connect from they're home 100mbit fibre, work
> 100mbit LAN or 42mbit (Telstra's just about got them out) mobile
> internet card. Seriously, when I can have mobile employee's connecting
> to a virtualised pc at work, my life becomes a lot easier.
>
> Also, the other positive is the possibility for people to be able to
> do home / SoHo offsite backups. House fires, floods and other natural
> disasters... Thief... All wouldn't matter as much anymore. Because
> your data would be safe...
>
> Just my 2 cents.
>
> Dan
>
> On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 7:15 AM, Andrew Oskam <percy at th3interw3bs.net>
> wrote:
>> I also dislike that people either forget or assume that the Internet will
>> be the same in 10 or 20 years.
>>
>> Look how much it's changed in 15.
>>
>> In my own opinion we are are just barely able to cope with the content we
>> have now on the current model.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> -------------
>> Andrew Oskam
>>
>> On 11/08/2010, at 11:46 PM, Adrian Chadd <adrian at creative.net.au> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 11, 2010, Anand Kumria wrote:
>>>
>>>>> to 3, that means in the slightly above average case there are 5 people
>>>>> living in a residence. If each of those people wants to conduct a high
>>>>> definition video conference at the same time, that is approximately 5 x
>>>>> 8 Mbps symmetric bandwidth [0], or 40Mbps. That is of course peak
>>>>> bandwidth, and worst case. 3 children is not that common, and I think 5
>>>>> concurrent HD video conferences is even less likely to happen. However,
>>>>> it is a feasible and possible use case.
>>>>>
>>>>> So what is the other 60Mbps for?
>>>>>
>>>
>>> Whatever the hell people dream up.
>>>
>>>> I see that close to 30% utilisation across some (others have close to
>>>> 10%)
>>>> of my DSL links is just Internet background radiation.
>>>
>>>> I assume things will be even less predictable when TV providers decide
>>>> to
>>>> 'pre-stream' shows to a bunch of households as well.
>>>
>>> I dislike how people keep focusing on traditional media rather than
>>> wondering
>>> what people could do with it.
>>>
>>> (Besides porn, of course.)
>>>
>>>
>>> Adrian
>>>
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