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<P><FONT SIZE=2>Beyond 1Mbps and with appropriate latency a Citrix session is indistinguishable from a local host.<BR>
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There are many regional mining companies with 4Mbps/4Mbps ATM circuits from Telstra with 100-400 thin clients hanging off the end who have great success.<BR>
<BR>
A 1.5Mbps DSL circuit is perfectly suitable for teleworking.<BR>
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-----Original Message-----<BR>
From: Daniel Hood [<A HREF="mailto:dsmhood@gmail.com">mailto:dsmhood@gmail.com</A>]<BR>
Sent: Thu 8/12/2010 10:11 AM<BR>
To: Curtis Bayne<BR>
Cc: Andrew Oskam; Tom Sykes; ausnog@ausnog.net<BR>
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] background radiation was: "i want a pony!" (was Re:Long live the NBN. The NBN is dead?! [personal])<BR>
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Fine and at normal speed are two very different things.<BR>
<BR>
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 10:06 AM, Curtis Bayne <curtis@bayne.com.au> wrote:<BR>
> Citrix runs perfectly fine under 512Kbps, ensuring latency is less than<BR>
> 100ms end-to-end.<BR>
><BR>
> I used to do this over VodafoneAU GPRS many moons ago...<BR>
><BR>
><BR>
> -----Original Message-----<BR>
> From: ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net on behalf of Daniel Hood<BR>
> Sent: Thu 8/12/2010 9:57 AM<BR>
> To: Andrew Oskam<BR>
> Cc: Tom Sykes; ausnog@ausnog.net<BR>
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] background radiation was: "i want a pony!" (was<BR>
> Re:Long live the NBN. The NBN is dead?! [personal])<BR>
><BR>
> Yea come on guys.<BR>
><BR>
> Botnet providers would only need maybe 10 bots to successfully bring<BR>
> down a 100mbit datacenter connection without the bot infected pc<BR>
> owners finding out.<BR>
><BR>
> Or even better, you could brute force a data center server and have<BR>
> the only bottleneck being both end-points processors, no longer the<BR>
> slow 6mbit DSL or such.<BR>
><BR>
> Think of the positives guys!<BR>
><BR>
> But more importantly. I like the fact that I could actually get<BR>
> employee's to start working properly from home. E.G, they have a<BR>
> netbook loaded up with just a thin client then they have their work<BR>
> pc, that they can connect from they're home 100mbit fibre, work<BR>
> 100mbit LAN or 42mbit (Telstra's just about got them out) mobile<BR>
> internet card. Seriously, when I can have mobile employee's connecting<BR>
> to a virtualised pc at work, my life becomes a lot easier.<BR>
><BR>
> Also, the other positive is the possibility for people to be able to<BR>
> do home / SoHo offsite backups. House fires, floods and other natural<BR>
> disasters... Thief... All wouldn't matter as much anymore. Because<BR>
> your data would be safe...<BR>
><BR>
> Just my 2 cents.<BR>
><BR>
> Dan<BR>
><BR>
> On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 7:15 AM, Andrew Oskam <percy@th3interw3bs.net><BR>
> wrote:<BR>
>> I also dislike that people either forget or assume that the Internet will<BR>
>> be the same in 10 or 20 years.<BR>
>><BR>
>> Look how much it's changed in 15.<BR>
>><BR>
>> In my own opinion we are are just barely able to cope with the content we<BR>
>> have now on the current model.<BR>
>><BR>
>> Sent from my iPhone<BR>
>> -------------<BR>
>> Andrew Oskam<BR>
>><BR>
>> On 11/08/2010, at 11:46 PM, Adrian Chadd <adrian@creative.net.au> wrote:<BR>
>><BR>
>>> On Wed, Aug 11, 2010, Anand Kumria wrote:<BR>
>>><BR>
>>>>> to 3, that means in the slightly above average case there are 5 people<BR>
>>>>> living in a residence. If each of those people wants to conduct a high<BR>
>>>>> definition video conference at the same time, that is approximately 5 x<BR>
>>>>> 8 Mbps symmetric bandwidth [0], or 40Mbps. That is of course peak<BR>
>>>>> bandwidth, and worst case. 3 children is not that common, and I think 5<BR>
>>>>> concurrent HD video conferences is even less likely to happen. However,<BR>
>>>>> it is a feasible and possible use case.<BR>
>>>>><BR>
>>>>> So what is the other 60Mbps for?<BR>
>>>>><BR>
>>><BR>
>>> Whatever the hell people dream up.<BR>
>>><BR>
>>>> I see that close to 30% utilisation across some (others have close to<BR>
>>>> 10%)<BR>
>>>> of my DSL links is just Internet background radiation.<BR>
>>><BR>
>>>> I assume things will be even less predictable when TV providers decide<BR>
>>>> to<BR>
>>>> 'pre-stream' shows to a bunch of households as well.<BR>
>>><BR>
>>> I dislike how people keep focusing on traditional media rather than<BR>
>>> wondering<BR>
>>> what people could do with it.<BR>
>>><BR>
>>> (Besides porn, of course.)<BR>
>>><BR>
>>><BR>
>>> Adrian<BR>
>>><BR>
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