[AusNOG] background radiation was: "i want a pony!" (was Re: Long live the NBN. The NBN is dead?! [personal])

Richard Pruss ric at cisco.com
Thu Aug 12 10:21:52 EST 2010


Dan,
I wonder if your problem in the long run is not so much a bandwidth problem as a VDI
protocol problem.  Most VDI protocols are like Video Conferencing and Voice were
before Skype proved to the world that protocols can be much more
intelligent about quality to bandwidth behaviour.
- Ric

On 12/08/2010, at 9:57 AM, Daniel Hood wrote:

> Yea come on guys.
> 
> Botnet providers would only need maybe 10 bots to successfully bring
> down a 100mbit datacenter connection without the bot infected pc
> owners finding out.
> 
> Or even better, you could brute force a data center server and have
> the only bottleneck being both end-points processors, no longer the
> slow 6mbit DSL or such.
> 
> Think of the positives guys!
> 
> But more importantly. I like the fact that I could actually get
> employee's to start working properly from home. E.G, they have a
> netbook loaded up with just a thin client then they have their work
> pc, that they can connect from they're home 100mbit fibre, work
> 100mbit LAN or 42mbit (Telstra's just about got them out) mobile
> internet card. Seriously, when I can have mobile employee's connecting
> to a virtualised pc at work, my life becomes a lot easier.
> 
> Also, the other positive is the possibility for people to be able to
> do home / SoHo offsite backups. House fires, floods and other natural
> disasters... Thief... All wouldn't matter as much anymore. Because
> your data would be safe...
> 
> Just my 2 cents.
> 
> Dan
> 
> On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 7:15 AM, Andrew Oskam <percy at th3interw3bs.net> wrote:
>> I also dislike that people either forget or assume that the Internet will be the same in 10 or 20 years.
>> 
>> Look how much it's changed in 15.
>> 
>> In my own opinion we are are just barely able to cope with the content we have now on the current model.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> -------------
>> Andrew Oskam
>> 
>> On 11/08/2010, at 11:46 PM, Adrian Chadd <adrian at creative.net.au> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Wed, Aug 11, 2010, Anand Kumria wrote:
>>> 
>>>>> to 3, that means in the slightly above average case there are 5 people
>>>>> living in a residence. If each of those people wants to conduct a high
>>>>> definition video conference at the same time, that is approximately 5 x
>>>>> 8 Mbps symmetric bandwidth [0], or 40Mbps. That is of course peak
>>>>> bandwidth, and worst case. 3 children is not that common, and I think 5
>>>>> concurrent HD video conferences is even less likely to happen. However,
>>>>> it is a feasible and possible use case.
>>>>> 
>>>>> So what is the other 60Mbps for?
>>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Whatever the hell people dream up.
>>> 
>>>> I see that close to 30% utilisation across some (others have close to 10%)
>>>> of my DSL links is just Internet background radiation.
>>> 
>>>> I assume things will be even less predictable when TV providers decide to
>>>> 'pre-stream' shows to a bunch of households as well.
>>> 
>>> I dislike how people keep focusing on traditional media rather than wondering
>>> what people could do with it.
>>> 
>>> (Besides porn, of course.)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Adrian
>>> 
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