[AusNOG] Long live the NBN. The NBN is dead?! [personal]

[Matthew Zobel]

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> On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 3:33 PM, Greg M <gregm at servu.net.au> wrote:
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>> Hi Grahame,
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>> My place of work would gladly pay that cost for me to be able to work ($5k
>> NBN build up front) from home, however they wouldn’t fit a bill of say $50k+
>> if someone say Nextgen or Amcom/PIPE – whoever, was to lay fiber direct to
>> my house if there wasn’t an NBN.
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> But if the true cost is $50k vs $5k for the NBN your effectivily saying
> it's not economical to run fibre to your house.  That pretty much kills the
> "business case" for the NBN right there.  Why should the tax payer subsidise
> running fibre to your house when most everyone else won't get any real
> benefit from it.
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> No-one here has given even one compelling reason for FTTH.
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> IPTV
> Smart Metering
> coverged phone line and data (VoIP)
> Teleconferrencing
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> none of these offer any real value to the average tax payer.
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>> *From:* ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net [mailto:
>> ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] *On Behalf Of *Grahame Lynch
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 11 August 2010 12:15 PM
>> *To:* Paul Brooks
>> *Cc:* ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
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>> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] Long live the NBN. The NBN is dead?! [personal]
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>> On 11 August 2010 11:04, Paul Brooks <pbrooks-ausnog at layer10.com.au>
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>> Perhaps your need hasn't changed. Mine has, and over the next 10 - 30
>> years I suspect it will change more. I no longer have a single PC shared
>> by all in the household - I have several, each capable of saturating far
>> more capacity than thye one I had 10 years ago, along with several
>> people who all want to access network resources simultaneously. I'm
>> currently finding sub-1 Mbps upstream speeds quite limiting - and
>> economically and productively limiting - and others do too.
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>> Paul I accept all that but I ask a question.
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>> Are you personally prepared to pay for the real cost of that service since
>> you experience a private benefit or productivity gain? Or should the cost of
>> that be partly borne by others who don't necessarily share the productivity
>> gain? That seems to be the nub of the issue here - most people will pay
>> $40-50 a month for broadband but they wouldn't pay the implied $3,000-5,000
>> per household connection and activation cost of the NBN budget directly if
>> asked to...in strict economic terms, it is a transfer from non-high speed
>> broadband users to high speed broadband users where costs are very hazily
>> proportioned between public and private interest criteria....
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