<div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="im">On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 3:33 PM, Greg M <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gregm@servu.net.au" target="_blank">gregm@servu.net.au</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div link="blue" vlink="purple" lang="EN-AU"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Hi Grahame,</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">My place of work would gladly pay that cost for me to be able to work ($5k NBN build up front) from home, however they wouldn’t fit a bill of say $50k+ if someone say Nextgen or Amcom/PIPE – whoever, was to lay fiber direct to my house if there wasn’t an NBN. <br>
</span></p></div></div></blockquote></div><div><br>But if the true cost is $50k vs $5k for the NBN your effectivily saying it's not economical to run fibre to your house. That pretty much kills the "business case" for the NBN right there. Why should the tax payer subsidise running fibre to your house when most everyone else won't get any real benefit from it.<br>
<br>No-one here has given even one compelling reason for FTTH.<br><br>IPTV<br>Smart Metering<br>coverged phone line and data (VoIP)<br>Teleconferrencing<br>etc<br><br>none of these offer any real value to the average tax payer. <br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-US"> <a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Grahame Lynch<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 11 August 2010 12:15 PM<br><b>To:</b> Paul Brooks<br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a><div><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] Long live the NBN. The NBN is dead?! [personal]</div>
</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt;"> </p><div><p class="MsoNormal">On 11 August 2010 11:04, Paul Brooks <<a href="mailto:pbrooks-ausnog@layer10.com.au" target="_blank">pbrooks-ausnog@layer10.com.au</a>> wrote:</p>
<div><div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><br> </p></div><p class="MsoNormal">Perhaps your need hasn't changed. Mine has, and over the next 10 - 30<br>years I suspect it will change more. I no longer have a single PC shared<br>
by all in the household - I have several, each capable of saturating far<br>more capacity than thye one I had 10 years ago, along with several<br>people who all want to access network resources simultaneously. I'm<br>
currently finding sub-1 Mbps upstream speeds quite limiting - and<br>economically and productively limiting - and others do too.</p><div><p class="MsoNormal">Paul I accept all that but I ask a question.</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">
</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Are you personally prepared to pay for the real cost of that service since you experience a private benefit or productivity gain? Or should the cost of that be partly borne by others who don't necessarily share the productivity gain? That seems to be the nub of the issue here - most people will pay $40-50 a month for broadband but they wouldn't pay the implied $3,000-5,000 per household connection and activation cost of the NBN budget directly if asked to...in strict economic terms, it is a transfer from non-high speed broadband users to high speed broadband users where costs are very hazily proportioned between public and private interest criteria....</p>
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