[AusNOG] smh: Misguided and stupid

Karl Kloppenborg karl at karltec.net
Tue Aug 3 11:13:14 EST 2010


Thinking a bit out of the box here,
But if I am reading your reply correctly mark then the christian lobby group (for a fee) will promote our ideas?

Why don't we fund them to not support the filter (wouldn't that put this whole thing on its head)


Cheers!
Karl Kloppenborg

On 03/08/2010, at 10:37, Mark Newton wrote:

> On 03/08/2010, at 8:28 AM, Kai wrote:
> 
>> Well, he's at it again...
>> 
>> Election 2010: Q&A with the Australian Christian Lobby's Jim Wallace on filters and classification
> 
> The Australian Christian Lobby is a company, not a grass roots
> organization.
> 
> http://www2.search.asic.gov.au/cgi-bin/gns030c?acn=075_120_517&juris=9&hdtext=ACN&srchsrc=1
> 
> It offers lobbying services (in exchange for a fee) to its customers.
> It presents itself as representative of a wide constituency in its
> marketing materials, but it almost certainly counts a small number of
> fundamentalist pentecostal religious organizations as customers.
> 
> The idea that they're some kind of broad membership-based body 
> representing tens of thousands of christians is a PR fabrication.
> One "joins" or "donates" to the ACL in the same way that one "joins"
> or "donates" to Harvey Norman.
> 
> It used to be called the Australian Christian Coalition, and it still
> carries ideological (if not financial) links to the Christian Coalition
> of America in the United States.
> 
> There have been various attempts over the last few years to find 
> out who their customers and/or funders are, including a try by the
> Greens during the gay marriage debate in 2008.
> 
> (I wanted to demonstrate their audience reach by showing a stats page
> from Alexa.com, but "Historical data not available for sites ranked
>> 100,000" http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/acl.org.au :)
> 
>  - mark
> 
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