[AusNOG] NBN Co Layer 2 vs. Layer 3 Services

Thu Apr 22 10:23:33 EST 2010

 From what I believe, and if someone knows more please correct me - 
Conroy plans to (if it has not been done already) release legislation 
that prohibits NBNCo from being anymore than a Layer 2 provider and they 
are prohibited from purchasing and/or otherwise obtaining a retail 
outlet. Some are saying that he plans to have a condition where he can 
overrule this in certain instances - but at this point I believe it's 
pure speculation.

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On 22/04/10 9:48 AM, David Hooton wrote:
>
> The sessions I've been to said they are building a Layer 2 access 
> network, with exception of the multicast network which they are 
> handling at layer 3.
>
> Mike Quigley was pretty explicit that the NBN just want to be plumbers 
> and provide pipes, they don't want to get involved in innovation or 
> service delivery beyond the provision of tubes.
>
> Cheers
>
> Dave*//*
>
> *From:* ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net 
> [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] *On Behalf Of *McDonald Richards
> *Sent:* Thursday, 22 April 2010 9:23 AM
> *To:* ausnog at ausnog.net
> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] NBN Co Layer 2 vs. Layer 3 Services
>
> I've been to a couple of their workshops now and from what I can tell, 
> NBN Co have no intention of providing a layer 3 service. Where are the 
> other voices and are they people with clue or just opinion pieces from 
> industry commentators?
>
> Macca
>
> *From:* ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net 
> [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] *On Behalf Of *Skeeve Stevens
> *Sent:* Thursday, 22 April 2010 9:03 AM
> *To:* ausnog at ausnog.net
> *Subject:* [AusNOG] NBN Co Layer 2 vs. Layer 3 Services
>
> Hey all,
>
> Just a quick question.
>
> At the moment there is a lot of talk of NBN and whether they are going 
> to deliver Layer 2 or Layer 3 services.
>
> I am a little confused about what is meant by that.  In that as ISP's, 
> I would assume that we would only want Layer 2 services from them? 
> Just in kind of a DSL Wholesale/Ethernet wholesale/etc situation that 
> we already have.
>
> Most of our ISP customers would be happy if the NBN operated just like 
> the current wholesale models out there at the moment.  Little ISP 
> calls his aggregator and says he wants a NBN VLAN to this address 
> which they get from NBNCo (if directly if you are big enough and can 
> afford to interconnect yourself), which is turned on and presented at 
> an aggregation port... very much like taking wholesale ethernet from 
> Pipe, Nextgen, Telstra and others today.
>
> This makes sense to me.
>
> But there is a bunch of voices saying they want the NBN Co to do Layer 
> 3... and I am not quite sure what is meant by that?  Users buy 
> bandwidth off the NBN Co? Turning them into a retail ISP?
>
> If this seems like a stupid question, I am sorry about that... but 
> there are some voices who have access to presenting their views and 
> are doing so about NBN should be doing Layer 3... and I am trying to 
> find some understanding about what is actually being suggested.
>
> ...Skeeve
>
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