[AusNOG] Carrier Independent Peering Exchange

[Skeeve Stevens]

I'd like to thank Bevan for his ongoing commitment to the industry - and putting his reputation on the line.  That is a significant thing in this game - if your reputation means much to you - which to you I think it does very much.

Thing is, while people love you Bevan, they don't trust/like/respect TPG much at all.  Question is, what can you do other than what you've said here that will have people worrying less?

Maybe move Pipe peering to a separate entity with everyone being an owner or something? I am not sure how much % of Pipes overall revenue the Peering product is... maybe it is significant, but if it isn't, maybe they'd entertain divesting itself of it will make it more attractive?  It certainly won't be worth much if other MLPA/BPA infrastructures pop up and gain popularity.

Just tossing around ideas.  Other ideas on how Bevan/Pipe can keep its peering product trusted?

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net [mailto:ausnog-
> bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Bevan Slattery
> Sent: Thursday, 17 December 2009 12:19 PM
> To: ausnog at ausnog.net
> Subject: [AusNOG] Carrier Independent Peering Exchange
> 
> 
> > Boo hiss to doing anything in an AAPT operated/owned DC.
> 
> And I think that's the cautionary tale that should be remembered and
> one
> that PIPE brought to flashpoint.  PIPE had a torrid time when the
> muppets in control of AAPT at the time decided to stop 'peering' and
> competitive carriers from interconnecting/offering services in their
> facilities.  We were happy to stay in their facilities, bring customers
> to them (via our DCI and dark fibre circuits) and offer our IX services
> within their facilities.  AAPT in their ultimate wisdom turned against
> the industry and decided that a colo customer can only buy their
> services yada-yada-yada.  All of us were happy to pay to be in their
> DC's as long as they were reasonable, but of course, they were
> unreasonable.
> 
> Within 6 months everyone deserted the facilities and AAPT found that
> they no longer had commercial relationships with much of the industry
> and even worse, had to establish PoP's in numerous datacentres to
> service existing customers.  If it weren't for AAPT's acquisition of
> Powertel, AAPT Wholesale, in my opinion, would have withered and died.
> A few years later, AAPT/Powertel have learnt their lessons and now
> offers some excellent wholesale services, particularly in the L2
> product
> suite.  Mind you they still have not been able to re-engage with a
> number of major accounts that were torched.
> 
> I can say that the management of PIPE and TPG are acutely aware of the
> history of acquisitions and the lessons that have been learnt.  Should
> the deal proceed, you will not find a reduction in offerings or value,
> but an increase.  PIPE peering, DCI/Ethernet, colo are expected to be
> expanded.  PIPE peering ain't going anywhere, anytime soon.
> 
> I'm staking my reputation on it.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> [b]
> 
> PS: PIPE will again be sponsoring Ausnog, Commsday etc. etc...
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