[AusNOG] Carrier Independent Peering Exchange

[Anand Kumria]

Ahh, bikeshedding. Especially deciding what colour to paint it.

A past time anyone can engage in.

A

On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Marcus Emanuel <marcus at slicktech.com.au>wrote:

>  *Since you are looking for a quality name for your ‘back of an envelope’
> L2 Peering Concept try this:*
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> * *
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> *B*roadband *U*biquitous *L*ocal* L*inked *S*ervices *H*ub & *I*nternet *T
> *ransit**
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>
> Yep, our network has never been better since we connected to BULL....
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> ;-)
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> Marcus
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> *From:* ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net [mailto:
> ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] *On Behalf Of *Sean K. Finn
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 16 December 2009 8:01 PM
> *To:* 'Craig Meyers'; 'ausnog at ausnog.net'
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] Carrier Independent Peering Exchange
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> What about what the product really did best?
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> Carriers, Racks And Peering.. ?
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> I Jest!  I Jest!
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> -Sean.
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> *From:* ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net [mailto:
> ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] *On Behalf Of *Craig Meyers
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 16 December 2009 5:48 PM
> *To:* ausnog at ausnog.net
> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] Carrier Independent Peering Exchange
>
>
>
> How about:
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> Wideband Extensible Ethernet Telco Backbone Internet eXchange
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> J
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> -- Craig Meyers
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> *From:* ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net [mailto:
> ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] *On Behalf Of *Cameron Murray
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 16 December 2009 5:24 PM
> *To:* Mark Caetano
> *Cc:* ausnog at ausnog.net
> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] Carrier Independent Peering Exchange
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>
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> AWIX - Australian Wide Internet Exchange
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> Your Thoughts?
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> On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 5:19 PM, Mark Caetano <mark at akami.info> wrote:
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> AUIX sounds fitting.
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> On 16/12/2009, at 5:56 PM, Steve Baxter wrote:
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> > NISP
> > AUIX
> > AusBone
> > SIX
> > BIX
> > VIX
> >
> > What will you call it ?
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > SB
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net
> >> [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Curtis Bayne
> >> Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 10:30 PM
> >> To: Adrian Chadd; Daragh Mc Grath
> >> Cc: ausnog at ausnog.net
> >> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Carrier Independent Peering Exchange
> >>
> >> This is a concept which I have been considering in depth for
> >> about two years now.
> >>
> >> It's gone as far as a planning stage, but we pulled back in
> >> the belief that, as a commercial organization, we do not add
> >> any value over current commercial operations - put quite
> >> simply, it's a "nice to have" but as an commercial venture it
> >> is doomed to failure (this is a testament to the quality of
> >> PIPE's product).
> >>
> >> I am both willing and able to participate, whether it be
> >> financially or through the provision of space (co-location or
> >> otherwise) to make a venture such as this a reality.
> >>
> >> Anyone in Brisbane who is *serious* about making this happen
> >> can contact me either on or off list - I am happy to provide
> >> resources, strategic direction or moral support (whatever is
> >> most needed) and I don't doubt there are others like me
> >> willing to support this kind of operation.
> >>
> >> Curtis
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net on behalf of Adrian Chadd
> >> Sent: Wed 12/16/2009 4:11 PM
> >> To: Daragh Mc Grath
> >> Cc: ausnog at ausnog.net
> >> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Carrier Independent Peering Exchange
> >>
> >> On Wed, Dec 16, 2009, Daragh Mc Grath wrote:
> >>> I'm glad to see this discussion has been kicked off here, it's
> >>> something I've thought about on and off over the past few years.
> >>>
> >>> Having worked for a major European exchange in the past (LINX) I've
> >>> been disappointed by the approach to peering here in
> >> Australia since I
> >>> moved around 2 years ago. Not having the big telco's present at
> >>> exchange points is the obvious cause, and given their
> >> willingness to
> >>> participate at other exchange points around the world but
> >> not at home, this is disappointing.
> >>
> >> There's reasons for this.
> >>
> >>> I believe that unless you have the major players engaged, an
> >>> alternative exchange is not going to happen (or may do, but
> >> won't be
> >>> as successful as it should!). The best way of trying to
> >> encourage that
> >>> is for an exchange to be setup as outlined by MMC, mutually
> >> owned and
> >>> most importantly, operate as a not for profit. To quote
> >> LINX, existing for the good of the internet.
> >>>
> >>> I will be following this thread with interest.
> >>
> >> The large telcos don't peer publicly because they want to
> >> sell transit.
> >> Larger ISPs that started peering when they were smaller ISPs
> >> are waking up to this.
> >>
> >> ISPs in the European/American markets have woken up to this.
> >> You can't necessarily get peering with everyone these days.
> >> The telco's may be at an IX but they won't peer with you at
> >> it. The reason the large telco's were historically at the AU
> >> IXes is because of the MLPA mandate.
> >> It does not at all mean they do not peer.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Adrian
> >>
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