[AusNOG] Carrier Independent Peering Exchange

[Curtis Bayne]

This is a concept which I have been considering in depth for about two years now.

It's gone as far as a planning stage, but we pulled back in the belief that, as a commercial organization, we do not add any value over current commercial operations - put quite simply, it's a "nice to have" but as an commercial venture it is doomed to failure (this is a testament to the quality of PIPE's product).

I am both willing and able to participate, whether it be financially or through the provision of space (co-location or otherwise) to make a venture such as this a reality.

Anyone in Brisbane who is *serious* about making this happen can contact me either on or off list - I am happy to provide resources, strategic direction or moral support (whatever is most needed) and I don't doubt there are others like me willing to support this kind of operation.

Curtis




-----Original Message-----
From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net on behalf of Adrian Chadd
Sent: Wed 12/16/2009 4:11 PM
To: Daragh Mc Grath
Cc: ausnog at ausnog.net
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Carrier Independent Peering Exchange
 
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009, Daragh Mc Grath wrote:
> I'm glad to see this discussion has been kicked off here, it's something
> I've thought about on and off over the past few years.
> 
> Having worked for a major European exchange in the past (LINX) I've been
> disappointed by the approach to peering here in Australia since I moved
> around 2 years ago. Not having the big telco's present at exchange points is
> the obvious cause, and given their willingness to participate at other
> exchange points around the world but not at home, this is disappointing.

There's reasons for this.

> I believe that unless you have the major players engaged, an alternative
> exchange is not going to happen (or may do, but won't be as successful as it
> should!). The best way of trying to encourage that is for an exchange to be
> setup as outlined by MMC, mutually owned and most importantly, operate as a
> not for profit. To quote LINX, existing for the good of the internet.
> 
> I will be following this thread with interest.

The large telcos don't peer publicly because they want to sell transit.
Larger ISPs that started peering when they were smaller ISPs are waking
up to this.

ISPs in the European/American markets have woken up to this. You can't
necessarily get peering with everyone these days. The telco's may be
at an IX but they won't peer with you at it. The reason the large
telco's were historically at the AU IXes is because of the MLPA mandate.
It does not at all mean they do not peer.




Adrian

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