[AusNOG] Conroy announcement on filtering

[jay binks]

Skeeve,
  you should let Family First know how you feel about this
http://www.familyfirst.org.au/ContactUs.htm

I think anyone identifying as Christian in faith & opposing Content
filtering should let FF know the extent of their folly.

Jay

On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 11:44 PM, Skeeve Stevens <Skeeve at eintellego.net>wrote:

>  Doubtful.
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> People don’t want to be told what they can watch/see – it is the interests
> groups that push these agendas.  The big push on the filtering has been from
> the Family First Party – some fringe Christian fundamentalist crazies who
> think they speak for all Christians – which as I am one, they don’t – which
> has been voiced by many other Christians I have discussed this with. Senator
> Steve Fielding is the fundamentalist pushing the Family First agenda.
> Problem is, the government has needed FF to get some other things through
> and this is one of the paybacks for FF.
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> If it did go to a vote – we’d be able to get our position out and most
> families would say no to a national censorship model – but the problem is
> that the 1% fundamentalists have 99% of the influence as when it comes down
> to it... most people don’t care enough to stand up and say ‘what? We don’t
> need this garbage and are quite capable to choosing what we or our kids see
> on the internet’.
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> I still am astounded that the free filtering apps weren’t considered good
> enough.  If you want to filter – great.. either use software or go to a
> family friendly ISP or buy a family friendly service from a major ISP.
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> Any ISP’s – especially once which serve a lot of businesses – shouldn’t
> have their business interrupted by worrying about what is essentially a
> consumer/end user problem.
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> *From:* ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net [mailto:
> ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] *On Behalf Of *Michael RISBY
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 15 December 2009 5:55 PM
> *To:* ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
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> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] Conroy announcement on filtering
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> If it were to come down to a vote, I’d believe it would get the ‘nod’
> anyway.
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> The number of ‘Average Families’ with little or no background computer
> knowledge would probably support it as they believe it would help protect
> their family.
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> Then again, it may swing our way. It’s a fairly big gamble.
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> *From:* ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net [mailto:
> ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] *On Behalf Of *Mark Newton
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 15 December 2009 5:42 PM
> *To:* Paul Foote
> *Cc:* ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] Conroy announcement on filtering
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> On 15/12/2009, at 4:48 PM, Paul Foote wrote:
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> i'm not really clued up on govt laws, but shouldn't things like this be
> pushed to a referendum, or is it not big enough?
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> Referenda are only for constitutional amendments.
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>   - mark
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Sincerely

Jay
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