[AusNOG] Happy new year / New rules for age-restricted internetand mobile content after the 20th of january 2008

[Bevan Slattery]

Matthew,

 

Cripes - we'd need around 25 caches (assuming they could each handle
1Gbps each) given 11 DSL pops, two per POP for redundancy (plus a few
extra in Adelaide) and a lab one.

 

Boo-hoo.  To be honest the Minister won't care about how many you have
to deploy.  It could be a pass-through cache, a L3 switch port with
ACL's, linux router, series of squid boxes running on a DX2-66's for
that matter.  But if 25 is the number, then that is the number.

Bevan, you're not actually helping by trying to dismiss our problem as
trivial.   



Far from it, the problem is not trivial.  But the technical problem (if
it's http blacklist) of implementing a http blacklist is not such a
stretch.  I'm just saying that in the scheme of things there are good
outcomes and bad outcomes.  If you think that should the decision for
Conroy comes down to Labor implementing an election promise versus
Internode buying 25 caches, then mate you're screwed.  And if you think
there is an industry/vendor 'expert' who will not back Conroy in saying
that a HTTP blacklist is not technically do-able, then you are living in
a fantasy land completely abstract of the political position we are all
in.  There are filters protecting all of Qld, NSW, VIC, TAS (and I think
SA's) public schools.  It's in place right now.  There are up to
2,000,000 students getting filtered Internet access at their school
every school day.

 

Cost is an issue, but the Government will most likely lump that on the
ISP as saying it's just a cost of being a provider of internet access.
Much the same as being a member of the TIO, responding to MPAA, paying
your carrier license fees (1% of eligible revenue) and dealing with
interception.  They may say that while there is a capex cost it would
represent an upfront cost of 1% of their entire years revenue.  Your 25
caches at a cost of $40k would be $1M and as Internode are a $100M
company that probably seems about right.  Whether this figure is
accurate or not probably won't matter.  It will become a tagline for the
Minister for 2 weeks on every broadcast medium which is long enough to
voters to think it's true.  Remember it's only going to cost $8.4B to
rollout FttN to 98% of the Australians.

 

The real problem here is that the filter will achieve very little.  It
will result in some latency and performance issues and it will cost
money.  However, the reality is It will not provide absolute (or even
near absolute) protection for Australia's children and frankly if
ACMA/DCITA are providing the list, it will not even provide the barest
of minimums.   It will provide ABSOLUTELY NO ADDED BENEFIT BEYOND THE
CLIENT SOFTWARE AND PARENTAL SUPERVISION THAT IS IN PLACE TODAY.

 

So, I'm not quite sure who you're trying to impress other than Conroy
(almost said Coonan).


Simply because I have an alternative view of this to yourself?  Oh
please  When you grow some stones and actually get active in the
industry and take the battle to the Minister, media and public
themselves to the point the Minister calls you a 'little shit' to your
face then I'm happy for you to step up to my plate and have a swing.

 

I don't have to impress anyone.  Didn't you know - I'm Denny Crane
[queue the music]

 

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