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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'>Matthew,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Cripes - we'd need around 25 caches (assuming they
could each handle 1Gbps each) given 11 DSL pops, two per POP for redundancy
(plus a few extra in <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Adelaide</st1:place></st1:City>)
and a lab one.</span></font><font color=navy><span style='color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'>Boo-hoo. To be honest the Minister
won’t care about how many you have to deploy. It could be a pass-through
cache, a L3 switch port with ACL’s, linux router, series of squid boxes
running on a DX2-66’s for that matter. But if 25 is the number,
then that is the number.</span></font><br>
<br>
Bevan, you're not actually helping by trying to dismiss our problem as
trivial. <br>
<br>
<font color=navy><span style='color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Far from it, the problem is not
trivial. But the technical problem (if it’s http blacklist) of
implementing a http blacklist is not such a stretch. I’m just
saying that in the scheme of things there are good outcomes and bad
outcomes. If you think that should the decision for Conroy comes down to Labor
implementing an election promise versus Internode buying 25 caches, then mate
you’re screwed. And if you think there is an industry/vendor ‘expert’
who will not back Conroy in saying that a HTTP blacklist is not technically
do-able, then you are living in a fantasy land completely abstract of the political
position we are all in. There are filters protecting all of Qld, NSW,
VIC, TAS (and I think SA’s) public schools. It’s in place
right now. There are up to 2,000,000 students getting filtered Internet
access at their school every school day.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Cost is an issue, but the Government will
most likely lump that on the ISP as saying it’s just a cost of being a
provider of internet access. Much the same as being a member of the TIO,
responding to MPAA, paying your carrier license fees (1% of eligible revenue)
and dealing with interception. They may say that while there is a capex
cost it would represent an upfront cost of 1% of their entire years
revenue. Your 25 caches at a cost of $40k would be $1M and as Internode
are a $100M company that probably seems about right. Whether this figure
is accurate or not probably won’t matter. It will become a tagline for
the Minister for 2 weeks on every broadcast medium which is long enough to voters
to think it’s true. Remember it’s only going to cost $8.4B to
rollout FttN to 98% of the Australians.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>The real problem here is that the filter
will achieve very little. It will result in some latency and performance
issues and it will cost money. However, the reality is It will not
provide absolute (or even near absolute) protection for <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Australia</st1:place></st1:country-region>’s
children and frankly if ACMA/DCITA are providing the list, it will not even
provide the barest of minimums. It will provide ABSOLUTELY NO ADDED
BENEFIT BEYOND THE CLIENT SOFTWARE AND PARENTAL SUPERVISION THAT IS IN PLACE
TODAY.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>So, I'm not quite sure who you're trying to impress
other than Conroy (almost said Coonan).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'><br>
</span></font><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Simply because I have an alternative view of this
to yourself? Oh please When you grow some stones and actually get
active in the industry and take the battle to the Minister, media and public
themselves to the point the Minister calls you a ‘little shit’ to
your face then I’m happy for you to step up to my plate and have a swing.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>I don’t have to impress
anyone. Didn’t you know - I’m Denny Crane [queue the music]</span></font><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>[b]<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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