[AusNOG] AusNOG 2.0? And Conference?

Robert Hudson hudrob at gmail.com
Thu Jan 14 13:59:15 EST 2021

PS - the kerfuffle over the ACS doing this recently was all about the
detail within the consitution, not the fact that they were aiming to become
a company limited by guarantee - as there's nothing inherently bad with
doing that.  As ever, the devil is in the details.

On Thu, 14 Jan 2021 at 13:58, Robert Hudson <hudrob at gmail.com> wrote:

> It's worth considering a "Company Limited by Guarantee" instead of an
> Incorporated Association.
> The former is registered direct with ASIC -you get an ABN.  You can as
> part of the registration have the "Pty Ltd" requirement removed.
> The latter is registered under a state (you get a business number), and to
> trade in other states must apply for an ARBN from ASIC (and then you have
> compliance at state and federal levels to manage).  Some states had
> requirements that you had to have an office (or official address) in the
> state that you were registered in, and even a public officer living in that
> state.
> Both can be registered as non-profit with the ATO, both can have a
> constitution to suit the requirements (no payments to members, etc), both
> can register as a charitable organisation if your constitution and purpose
> are suited to it.
> I've helped deregister an Incorporated Association to replace it with a
> Company Limited by Guarantee.  Happy to discuss with anyone interested in
> how this works (can supply various example documents/etc as well).
> Regards,
> Robert
> On Thu, 14 Jan 2021 at 13:09, Warrick Mitchell <wyvernflyin at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> Hi David and Terry,
>> In AusNOG 2018, David in his closing remarks talked about moving AusNOG
>> towards an incorporated association with members.
>> Since then we had AusNOG 2019 and I believe there were some remarks about
>> this moving forward (however the slides are not up on the ausnog site to
>> refer to for the closing remarks) and as I understand it three of the
>> directors of AusNOG resigned and have not been replaced yet.
>> So do we have an update on what's happening with AusNOG as an entity? It
>> feels like it's stalled on the highway...
>> In 2020, it was announced there would be no AusNOG conference at all, due
>> to COVID-19.
>> David mentioned a conference in September 2021, but what's the plan if
>> travel restrictions / border closures are still in place?
>> Perhaps we should consider having a conversation with our NZ cousins and
>> running a virtual conference together etc might be an idea?
>> Cheers,
>> Warrick
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