[AusNOG] MBB Wholesale Service provider

Darren Moss Darren.Moss at cloud365.com.au
Thu Jul 30 09:08:58 EST 2020

Hi Ben,

Something else to keep in mind is that in some DC locations Telstra is the only mobile service that works reliably.

We have deployments in Sydney DCs where both Optus and Vodafone just didn't work.

+1 for Mikrotik. They can be a hassle to get working properly but once running they are reliable.


From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Benjamin Ricardo
Sent: Wednesday, 29 July 2020 10:52 PM
To: Jared Hirst; Bevan Slattery; David Hughes
Cc: AusNOG Mailing List
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] MBB Wholesale Service provider

Thanks for the input David, Bevan & Jared, also to the many others that responded privately.

The call home idea is a good one Jared. One big advantage is the ability to be a bit carrier agnostic and use the provider with the best signal strength in the area. Mikrotik also do a bunch of gear with LTE support which seems to be pretty flexible.
I would prefer the public address delivered direct to the endpoint though (less moving parts... got to hate VPN lockups).
Far out Bevan $80k in OOB connections! We're a touch shy of that.. eh hem..

Had I known how popular a topic this was I would not have worried about creating noise on the list!
For the many others interested; potential providers referred to me as a result of this request (listed FIFO) -
2SG (2sg.com.au)
Field Solutions Group     <- have not checked this out yet though.
URL networks
ZettaNet (part of ZettaGrid)
Connected Australia

Tim Sandy provided a table from his research (thanks mate)



Vanilla Telecom

No layer 2 - Static IP on Vodafone network

iBoss Symbio

No layer 2 - Resell Telstra data/minutes only


No layer 2


Layer 2/VPDN solution offered

If I missed anyone, I am very sorry.

Probably got as many as I can handle at this stage, thanks very much to all that responded the wealth of knowledge on this list is incredible.


From: Jared Hirst <jared.hirst at serversaustralia.com.au>
Sent: Wednesday, 29 July 2020 7:53 PM
To: Bevan Slattery <bevan at slattery.net.au>; David Hughes <david at hughes.com.au>; Benjamin Ricardo <ben.ricardo at acs.com.au>
Cc: AusNOG Mailing List <ausnog at ausnog.net>
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] MBB Wholesale Service provider

We use standard dynamic sims from Telstra and Vodafone.

They plug into OpenGear devices and connect back to lighthouse software by OpenGear, so rather than us accessing them, they create a connection and call home to the lighthouse server that's also not on our network via VPN, so it works on pretty much every carrier.

Each OOB site costs around $3 a month and doesn't need a static IP.

Highly recommend it, it has been solid for us!

On 29 July 2020, 7:07 pm AEST bevan at slattery.net.au<mailto:bevan at slattery.net.au> wrote:

We are about to evaluate exactly the same thing at the moment.  Looking at Australia first, but potentially globally.  Save almost $80k per month in OOB services globally if this stands up technically.  Talking to same provider in Australia.  Static IP etc.


From: AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net>> on behalf of David Hughes <david at hughes.com.au<mailto:david at hughes.com.au>>
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2020 4:43 pm
To: Benjamin Ricardo
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Subject: Re: [AusNOG] MBB Wholesale Service provider


I've moved an LTE service we use for OOB over to ZettaNet from the previous provider who shall not be named :)   It was retail naturally but they may be able to offer you something compelling.


On 29 Jul 2020, at 2:12 pm, Benjamin Ricardo <ben.ricardo at acs.com.au<mailto:ben.ricardo at acs.com.au>> wrote:

Hi All,
Just wondering if anyone knows of a service provider (hopefully a wholesaler) that can provide us 3G,4G,LTE services with a static IPv4 address?

We've got a bunch we need to switch over ASAP as our previous wholesaler has decided that they're not doing this anymore.... cause they don't want to... *sigh*

Replies off list please,

Many thanks


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