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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Hi Ben,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Something else to keep in mind is that in some DC locations Telstra is the only mobile service that works reliably.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">We have deployments in Sydney DCs where both Optus and Vodafone just didn’t work.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">+1 for Mikrotik. They can be a hassle to get working properly but once running they are reliable.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Benjamin Ricardo<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 29 July 2020 10:52 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Jared Hirst; Bevan Slattery; David Hughes<br>
<b>Cc:</b> AusNOG Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] MBB Wholesale Service provider<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Thanks for the input David, Bevan & Jared, also to the many others that responded privately.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">The call home idea is a good one Jared. One big advantage is the ability to be a bit carrier agnostic and use the provider with the best signal strength in the area. Mikrotik also do a bunch of gear
with LTE support which seems to be pretty flexible. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I would prefer the public address delivered direct to the endpoint though (less moving parts… got to hate VPN lockups).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Far out Bevan $80k in OOB connections! We’re a touch shy of that.. eh hem..
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Had I known how popular a topic this was I would not have worried about creating noise on the list!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">For the many others interested; potential providers referred to me as a result of this request (listed FIFO) -
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">2SG (2sg.com.au) <o:p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Exetel <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Field Solutions Group <– have not checked this out yet though.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">URL networks <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Virtutel<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">ZettaNet (part of ZettaGrid)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Connected Australia<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Tim Sandy provided a table from his research (thanks mate)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt">No layer 2 - Static IP on Vodafone network<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt">No layer 2 - Resell Telstra data/minutes only<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">If I missed anyone, I am very sorry.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Probably got as many as I can handle at this stage, thanks very much to all that responded the wealth of knowledge on this list is incredible.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Ben<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 29 July 2020 7:53 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Bevan Slattery <bevan@slattery.net.au>; David Hughes <david@hughes.com.au>; Benjamin Ricardo <ben.ricardo@acs.com.au><br>
<b>Cc:</b> AusNOG Mailing List <ausnog@ausnog.net><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] MBB Wholesale Service provider<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">We use standard dynamic sims from Telstra and Vodafone.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">They plug into OpenGear devices and connect back to lighthouse software by OpenGear, so rather than us accessing them, they create a connection and call home to the lighthouse server that’s
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<p class="MsoNormal">We are about to evaluate exactly the same thing at the moment. Looking at Australia first, but potentially globally. Save almost $80k per month in OOB services globally if this stands up technically. Talking to same provider in Australia.
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 29, 2020 4:43 pm<br>
<b>To:</b> Benjamin Ricardo<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] MBB Wholesale Service provider <o:p></o:p></p>
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