[AusNOG] Metadata retention... it's now (almost) a thing

Sam Silvester sam.silvester at gmail.com
Thu Oct 30 12:42:08 EST 2014


David, that isn't very comforting.

As it's defined by regulation, it's subject to change without further
legislative oversight.

Also, I'm willing to bet it'll also include (for mobile providers) stuff
like GPS location etc. It'll gradually scope creep out, just you watch.

On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 11:32 AM, David Beveridge <dave at bevhost.com> wrote:

> I was listening to the parliament broadcast on the radio this morning and
> (boring I know)
> but I definitely heard Malcolm say that we not be required to record the
> destination IP addresses that customers visit, only the source IP address
> mapping.
> That is, we should be able to supply the account name of the customer who
> had the IP address at a given date and time.
>
> I'm not really sure where this leaves freewifi providers which have a
> multitude of unknown users behind a single IP.
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 10:56 AM, Ben Cooper <ben at zeno.io> wrote:
>
>> Last I checked (90 minutes ago). They still have not set what data they
>> want kept.
>>
>> Reference:
>> http://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/search/display/display.w3p;query=Id%3A%22legislation%2Fems%2Fr5375_ems_e6cf11b4-5a4e-41bc-ae27-031e2b90e001%22
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 10:54 AM, David Beveridge <dave at bevhost.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I don't know why you're so upset about this.
>>> They're only asking you to keep radius and smtp logs.
>>> It's not like you're being asked to keep two years worth of netflow
>>> history.
>>>
>>> dave
>>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 10:35 AM, Paul Julian <
>>> paul at oxygennetworks.com.au> wrote:
>>>
>>>> This is total bullshit, these people just have no clue, is there
>>>> nothing we can do as a community to try and stop this nonsense ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I can just see the $$$$ now…..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>> Paul
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] *On Behalf Of *Andrew
>>>> Yager
>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, 30 October 2014 11:22 AM
>>>> *To:* ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
>>>> *Subject:* [AusNOG] Metadata retention... it's now (almost) a thing
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/latest/turnbull-to-rush-metadata-retention-legislation-through-parliament/story-e6frg90f-1227106806266?nk=72104b22405c826c296d068859fd4bea
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Andrew
>>>>
>>>>
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