[AusNOG] Metadata retention... it's now (almost) a thing

[Bevan Slattery]

Bingo.  It¹s ³thin edge of the wedge² legislation.

[b]

From:  Sam Silvester <sam.silvester at gmail.com>
Date:  Thursday, 30 October 2014 11:42 am
To:  David Beveridge <dave at bevhost.com>
Cc:  "ausnog at lists.ausnog.net" <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
Subject:  Re: [AusNOG] Metadata retention... it's now (almost) a thing

David, that isn't very comforting.

As it's defined by regulation, it's subject to change without further
legislative oversight.

Also, I'm willing to bet it'll also include (for mobile providers) stuff
like GPS location etc. It'll gradually scope creep out, just you watch.

On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 11:32 AM, David Beveridge <dave at bevhost.com> wrote:
> I was listening to the parliament broadcast on the radio this morning and
> (boring I know)
> but I definitely heard Malcolm say that we not be required to record the
> destination IP addresses that customers visit, only the source IP address
> mapping.
> That is, we should be able to supply the account name of the customer who had
> the IP address at a given date and time.
> 
> I'm not really sure where this leaves freewifi providers which have a
> multitude of unknown users behind a single IP.
> 
> 
> On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 10:56 AM, Ben Cooper <ben at zeno.io> wrote:
>> Last I checked (90 minutes ago). They still have not set what data they want
>> kept.
>> 
>> Reference: 
>> http://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/search/display/display.w3p;query=Id%3A%22
>> legislation%2Fems%2Fr5375_ems_e6cf11b4-5a4e-41bc-ae27-031e2b90e001%22
>> 
>> On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 10:54 AM, David Beveridge <dave at bevhost.com> wrote:
>>> I don't know why you're so upset about this.
>>> They're only asking you to keep radius and smtp logs.
>>> It's not like you're being asked to keep two years worth of netflow history.
>>> 
>>> dave
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 10:35 AM, Paul Julian <paul at oxygennetworks.com.au>
>>> wrote:
>>>> This is total bullshit, these people just have no clue, is there nothing we
>>>> can do as a community to try and stop this nonsense ?
>>>>  
>>>> I can just see the $$$$ nowŠ..
>>>>  
>>>> Regards
>>>> Paul
>>>>  
>>>> From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Andrew
>>>> Yager
>>>> Sent: Thursday, 30 October 2014 11:22 AM
>>>> To: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
>>>> Subject: [AusNOG] Metadata retention... it's now (almost) a thing
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/latest/turnbull-to-rush-metadata-r
>>>> etention-legislation-through-parliament/story-e6frg90f-1227106806266?nk=721
>>>> 04b22405c826c296d068859fd4bea
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> Andrew
>>>>  
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