[AusNOG] IPv6: Where's my tunnel?

Simon Kong Win Chang simon at skaccess.com
Wed Mar 6 21:25:41 EST 2013

I did change to internode for ipv6 :)

Simon Kong

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On Mar 6, 2013 6:21 PM, "Karl Auer" <kauer at biplane.com.au> wrote:

> On Wed, 2013-03-06 at 22:22 +1300, Don Gould wrote:
> > How hard is it to set up the server end of a tunnel broker?
> Not that hard - probably a few days from scratch if you had no idea at
> all where to start; less if you had some idea. At the end of that you'd
> have a software solution running on something like FreeBSD. Of course,
> to handle real customers, or thousands of customers, you would probably
> need something more robust, maybe in hardware, and to run the thing as a
> service, it would need to be bulletproof, well-connected etc. And of
> course then there are the ongoing costs of space, power, cooling,
> administration.... by the end of all that, it probably isn't looking
> that cheap or easy, really. You would probably be talking tens of
> thousands to set it up and run it in the first year.
> > Why is my ISP, who can't run v6 on their BRAS, not just setting up a
> > tunnel broker service in their network so I can have shortest path
> > routing for my v6 today?
> Hm. Put that para together with this para:
> > I don't understand why I should need to pay for my data twice if I have
> > to buy services off a commercial tunnel broker.
> ...and you find the reason. It costs a bundle to set one up, but nobody
> is prepared to pay for it. Same problem as IPv6 generally, in fact - but
> they will be forced to go that way, while no-one is forcing tunnel
> brokers on them. How many ISP customers have changed providers for IPv6?
> I did :-) but I suspect I am very much the exception rather than the
> rule.
> If Australian customers were flooding to Internode in their thousands,
> seeking IPv6, then the other providers would suddenly discover IPv6 was
> worthwhile after all.
> Regards, K.
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