<p dir="ltr">I did change to internode for ipv6 :)<br></p>
<p dir="ltr">Regards,<br>
Simon Kong</p>
<p dir="ltr">Sent from a mobile device.</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Mar 6, 2013 6:21 PM, "Karl Auer" <<a href="mailto:kauer@biplane.com.au">kauer@biplane.com.au</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
On Wed, 2013-03-06 at 22:22 +1300, Don Gould wrote:<br>
> How hard is it to set up the server end of a tunnel broker?<br>
<br>
Not that hard - probably a few days from scratch if you had no idea at<br>
all where to start; less if you had some idea. At the end of that you'd<br>
have a software solution running on something like FreeBSD. Of course,<br>
to handle real customers, or thousands of customers, you would probably<br>
need something more robust, maybe in hardware, and to run the thing as a<br>
service, it would need to be bulletproof, well-connected etc. And of<br>
course then there are the ongoing costs of space, power, cooling,<br>
administration.... by the end of all that, it probably isn't looking<br>
that cheap or easy, really. You would probably be talking tens of<br>
thousands to set it up and run it in the first year.<br>
<br>
> Why is my ISP, who can't run v6 on their BRAS, not just setting up a<br>
> tunnel broker service in their network so I can have shortest path<br>
> routing for my v6 today?<br>
<br>
Hm. Put that para together with this para:<br>
<br>
> I don't understand why I should need to pay for my data twice if I have<br>
> to buy services off a commercial tunnel broker.<br>
<br>
...and you find the reason. It costs a bundle to set one up, but nobody<br>
is prepared to pay for it. Same problem as IPv6 generally, in fact - but<br>
they will be forced to go that way, while no-one is forcing tunnel<br>
brokers on them. How many ISP customers have changed providers for IPv6?<br>
I did :-) but I suspect I am very much the exception rather than the<br>
rule.<br>
<br>
If Australian customers were flooding to Internode in their thousands,<br>
seeking IPv6, then the other providers would suddenly discover IPv6 was<br>
worthwhile after all.<br>
<br>
Regards, K.<br>
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