[AusNOG] Conroy censoring dissent?

[Bruce Forster]

Im sure im not alone in this, but id love to see a copy of the list of the 
1300 sites that were listed for blocking?

Iinet look's to be taking part:
http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies-archive.cfm/1085585.html

Im left wondering if customer get a say if they do not wish to be part of 
the trial. I guess its a 'non-opt-out' much like Conroys plan.
If this is the case id be upset if i was an iinet customer.

The hush-hushness and the deception of the whole scheme is what has me 
ultimately so worried, nothing has been upfront about it from day one 
Conroys has lied to everyone, I don't know about the rest of you but i feel 
im left with a large "I don't trust you guys" feeling.


Regards,

Bruce

On Wed, 12 Nov 2008, Mark Newton wrote:

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> On 11/11/2008, at 9:11 AM, Noel Butler wrote:
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>> So that means start it a week or so before Christmas and possibly end it at 
>> the end of January, awesome!   Run the trial and get results with minimum 
>> impact when everybody is away on holidays and not at home using the net as 
>> they usually would be to experience the real world affects this will have 
>> on them... very clever ... not.
>
> Oh, and use all the network engineering staff who will be away on holidays
> to make it all happen. :-)
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>> I wonder what this joke of a Senator will do if all ISP's reneged in 
>> participating in the trial, or turned around and said sure, but lets do it 
>> in February when we can simulate actual 'real world' conditions.
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> On the latter suggestion, I suspect they'd take it.  Everything else in the
> trial is so rubbery that I doubt they'd balk at making the schedule rubbery
> too.
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> A better question I'd ask is why run the trial at all, given that there are
> ISPs out there who have been doing this on a production basis for years
> already?  The Minister keeps saying he's consulting industry, so why
> didn't he just ask them?  "How much money have you made out of this
> stuff anyway, guys?  And does it actually work?"
>
> - mark
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