<div dir="ltr">Jason,<div><br></div><div>Last September (<a href="https://mailman.nanog.org/pipermail/nanog/2021-September/thread.html">https://mailman.nanog.org/pipermail/nanog/2021-September/thread.html</a>), I posted a similar question to NANOG.</div><div>The thread was titled "Telecommunications network drafting software".</div><div>You might find something helpful there.</div><div><br></div><div>I'll confess that ultimately, I resigned myself to:</div><div><br></div><div>(a) using Visio</div><div>(b) buying Visio templates (especially those for radio access networks)</div><div>(c) using basic shapes and labelling them, instead of endlessly chasing a wild goose on the Internet.</div><div><br></div><div>Ultimately, my humble diagnosis is that we're on our own until someone decides to take this up as a business venture.</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div><br></div><div>Etienne</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Oct 9, 2022 at 2:30 AM Jason Leschnik <<a href="mailto:jason@leschnik.me">jason@leschnik.me</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">Hi everyone,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">Frustration has gotten the better of me, hence the post. Sorry if this isn't 100% relevant, I thought about posting on Reddit but find sometimes the replies are a bit of a dumpster fire. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">We're using Visio and some very basic templating practices (common symbols, guidelines for link color/type & styles). But every time I jump into our diagrams, I'm always frustrated with how tedious it is to use Visio (possible lack of skill?) and how rigid the tool is. Moving a device/adding a new site, effectively means getting out the scissors and glue and spending an afternoon like an artisan redrawing and reflowing links. I understand there are other tools out there, <a href="http://draw.io/lucid" target="_blank">draw.io/lucid</a> which are better but still all take time and some artistic flare. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">Possibly this is due to a mix of how we're using connectors (some in our team are just reverting to using simple lines now to avoid the connector reflow madness). But things like labels on links, having to chase them around the page manually, and diagrams that are difficult to read because of lack of room. Surely we're doing it the hard way? </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">Does anyone have examples of their "real world" diagrams (redacted of course!) to show how they do this better? All the Google-Fu I do on the subject just brings me to those "edgy" isometric Network diagrams that are used in marketing slideware.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><b>tl;dr</b> looking for practical Network diagram styles so I can use some of the themes in our diagrams.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">Attached sample, moving anything around in this small area requires a few hours to rework everything. It shouldn't be this hard right?<br><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><img src="cid:ii_l90lwbt80" alt="image.png" width="497" height="242"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">Regards,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">Jason.</div></div>
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</blockquote></div><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><span style="color:rgb(136,136,136);font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">Ing. Etienne-Victor Depasquale</span><br style="color:rgb(136,136,136);font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(136,136,136);font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">Assistant Lecturer</span><br style="color:rgb(136,136,136);font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(136,136,136);font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">Department of Communications & Computer Engineering</span><br style="color:rgb(136,136,136);font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(136,136,136);font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">Faculty of Information & Communication Technology</span><br style="color:rgb(136,136,136);font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(136,136,136);font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">University of Malta</span><div>Web. <a href="https://www.um.edu.mt/profile/etiennedepasquale" target="_blank">https://www.um.edu.mt/profile/etiennedepasquale</a><br></div></div></div>