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<p>Thousand's of NBN connections only a handful of times been asked
for a Proof of occupancy. As far as NBNco goes i dont thing they
are a major threat as far as a privacy / data breech goes. Letter
box theft will get you the same sort of info. There are way worse
out there let me tell you. Some of the people i deal with
especially some that work for the big outsource IT firms are
totally incompetent in my humble opinion. Fixated on box ticking
some list of best practice that they have plagiarised form a
google search that does not correctly fit their clients business
leaving them with nothing more then a sense of security. <br>
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<p>Over the last 10 years in Australia there has been shift toward a
type of IT Mafia where C and B levels have been afraid to hire
anyone perceived to be smarted then themselves with a tending
toward hire people they know and can trust not to steal their job.
They live in a delusional world with their sense of security and
boxes checked, happy in the notion that if something happens they
can bring out the team meeting minutes and declare but we checked
all the boxes. We hired most expensive management firm out their
It must be [spin the wheel of blame] fault. <br>
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<p>Until we bring back thinkers and innovators in our industry we
will be doomed to repeat problems like the Optus one over and
over. <br>
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<p>Matt</p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 30/9/2022 1:24 pm, Nathan Brookfield
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I do these daily Graham and I can say apart from the business name
or there website to verify, I’ve NEVER been asked for end users
details by NBN nor would I provide them, absolutely never for a
Proof of Occupancy and that’s over hundreds of them.<br>
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On 30 Sep 2022, at 11:04, Giles Pollock <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:glp71s@gmail.com"><glp71s@gmail.com></a>
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<div dir="ltr">Its NBNCo... With what I've experienced over the
last near six years of dealing with them over a failure in
infrastructure planning, I am quite prepared to expect a
future severe data breach from them.
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<div>There are whole slabs of design and implementation
elements of the NBN both at wholesaler and RSP levels which
leave me deeply concerned about the privacy elements of
things, especially the apparent decision to push all RSPs to
use TR069 autoprovisioning systems for end users. Some in
the know might know of how one little mistake with those
particular systems could turn into a pretty hefty data
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<div>Hi All,<br>
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In light of the current Optus debacle, can anyone explain
NBN's constant demands for Proof of Occupancy
Documentation (POD) in relation to the most trivial of
request. I accept they want to ensure requests are
legitimate for creating and modifying LOCIDs, but surely
that should be limited to addressing details only, with
the onus of vetting the end user left to the RSP.<br>
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What possible reason can they have to demand end user
names and contact information?<br>
<br>
In my mind, they are overstepping their wholesale role
and, creating the opportunity for another needless future
compromise.<br>
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Cheers,<br>
Graham<br>
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