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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Maybe it was because either a) the database containing these records was encrypted and no use to the hacker or maybe he hadn’t got that far before he was exposed.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Who knows LOL<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Andrew Mathieson-Blakely<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">AusNOG <ausnog-bounces@ausnog.net> on behalf of Nick Adams <ausnog@narkov.com><br>
<b>Date: </b>Tuesday, 27 September 2022 at 1:07 pm<br>
<b>To: </b>"ausnog@ausnog.net" <ausnog@ausnog.net><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [AusNOG] Optus Hack<br>
<b>Resent from: </b><andrew.mathieson-blakely@bmcg.com.au><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">See the "Australia Card"[1] for why the Federal government probably couldn't provide central identification/auth services. It is politically very challenging...despite the obvious benefits it would provide.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">[1] <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australia_Card">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australia_Card</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Nick Adams<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, 27 Sep 2022, at 12:39 PM, Michael Kahl wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Is there any legal obligation to store sensitive ID information in its original form? Storing a hashed version only would be sufficient to prove the details had been collected and verify any future ID verification requirements without actually
retaining the sensitive data.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Separately, should the government provide an opt in two factor ID verification service for critical services such as telco, utilities, banking, etc? There are privacy concerns, however if implemented correctly they wouldn't be collecting
any further information than what they legally have access to now.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Sep 27, 2022 at 11:12 AM Nathan Brookfield <<a href="mailto:Nathan.Brookfield@iperium.com.au">Nathan.Brookfield@iperium.com.au</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">They’re legally obligated to retain it but why it’s on the API and why it’s not encrypted.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Looking at the data some fields are hashed and then repeated in the bloody clear :(<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 27 Sep 2022, at 11:02, <a href="mailto:glenn.satchell@uniq.com.au" target="_blank">
glenn.satchell@uniq.com.au</a> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">My understanding was that the data included the 100 points of ID info. Why are they retaining this? Surely after confirming the 100 points there only needs to be a record "100 points provided"=true and not retain the actual details. This
goes back to only keeping the private data you need.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Glenn<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 2022-09-27 10:49, Damien Gardner Jnr wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">> Personally, I find putting Authentication on my API endpoints to be a<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">> FANTASTIC first step towards API security. And then not even using<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">> public IP addresses in test environments is a pretty good second<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">> step.. </onlyhalfsarcasticherewhydoesthiskeephappening><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">> On Tue, 27 Sept 2022 at 10:46, Bevan Slattery <<a href="mailto:bevan@slattery.net.au" target="_blank">bevan@slattery.net.au</a>><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">>> Hi everyone,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">>> Obviously a big week in telco and cybersecurity. As part of my work<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">>> I am on the Australian Cyber Security Industry Advisory Committee as<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">>> an industry representative.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">>> I am keen to look at opening up a dialogue with more and more telco,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">>> DC and Cloud CISO’s on what they are doing around this issue and<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">>> looking to take a proactive step towards best practice on customer<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">>> data and system security.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">>> There will be some pretty serious consequences of this hack on the<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">>> industry and importantly we need to make sure we are as best placed<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">>> to help each other continually increase in security posture through<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">>> best practice, but also working with each other as an industry.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">>> Are people keen on having a online/VC session sometime in the next<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">>> few weeks where like-minded industry participants get together and<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">>> discuss security, retention, encryption, threat detection etc.? If<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">>> so, just ping me directly and if there is enough interest I will<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">>> send out an invitation to the list for a call.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">>> Cheers<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">>> [b]<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">>> _______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">>> <a href="mailto:AusNOG@ausnog.net" target="_blank">AusNOG@ausnog.net</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">>> <a href="https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog" target="_blank">
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<p class="MsoNormal">> --<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">> Damien Gardner Jnr<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">> VK2TDG. Dip EE. GradIEAust<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">> We rode on the winds of the rising storm,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">> We ran to the sounds of thunder.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">> We danced among the lightning bolts,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">> and tore the world asunder<o:p></o:p></p>
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