<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">Hi Shaun,<div><br></div><div>are you aware that not all presentations can be streamed? Many presenters provide content that is "in room only" and even their slides can't be shared. How does that factor into you math? </div><div><br></div><div>That is the key benefit of AusNOG IMHO as there have been (and will be) many presentations you won't see on youtube.<br><br><div dir="ltr"><div>Cheers,</div><div>Terry</div><div>--</div><div>Mobile device, don't expect grammar.</div></div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On 2 Aug 2022, at 4:33 pm, Shaun Deans <shaun@kadeo.com.au> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">ο»Ώ<div><div><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class="">It got the better of me and I'm glad it did.<br></div><div class=""><br></div><div class="">TLDR: 50x Streams = 'the sponsor' <i class="">- Swag </i><br></div><div class=""><br></div><div class="">---<br></div><ol class=""><li value="1" class="">Income <br></li><ol class=""><li class="">August 2022 = ~ <a href="https://www.ausnog.net/events/ausnog-2021/attendees" target="_blank" class="">300 Attendees </a>at $600 <a href="https://www.ausnog.net/events/ausnog-2022/registration" target="_blank" class="">per ticket (Average)</a> <br></li><li class="">Total $180K<br></li><li class="">Sponsors = 'Nearly Half' β $90K<br><br></li></ol><li class="">Who Done It And What Did They Offer ?<br></li><ol class=""><li class="">I'm just going to say everyone pays equal but they probably don't<br></li><li class="">This will bias for the fact that it could be any tiering and we don't want to single out community members who may be sponsors<br></li><li class="">So the 'sponsor income' could be 15K <br></li><ol class=""><li class="">nice round number<br></li><li class="">and its 'nearly half'<br><br></li></ol></ol><li class="">Streaming to to masses!<br></li><ol class=""><li class="">50% Cost for Streaming Ticket = $300<br></li><li class="">Total Streams = $15,000 / $300<br></li><li class="">That's only <b class="">50 tickets and it may break even</b><br></li><ol class=""><li class="">3 people said they'd be interested already.<br><br></li></ol></ol><li class="">This doesn't include:<br></li><ol class=""><li class="">Savings: Onsite Costs such as venue hire, insurance, etc etc<br></li><li class="">Expenses: Bandwidth and Streaming Costs<img src="https://emojis.superhuman.com/1F644.png" alt="π" title="π" style="height: 15px !important; width: 15px !important; vertical-align: text-bottom !important;" height="15" width="15" data-unique-identifier=""><br><br></li></ol><li class=""><i>Past performance is not a indicator of future performance. /s</i><br></li><li class=""><i>All advice is general in nature /s<br></i><br></li></ol><div class=""><img src="https://emojis.superhuman.com/1F3A4.png" alt="π€" title="π€" style="height: 15px !important; width: 15px !important; vertical-align: text-bottom !important;" height="15" width="15" data-unique-identifier=""> <img src="https://emojis.superhuman.com/1F481-200D-2642-FE0F.png" alt="πββοΈ" title="πββοΈ" style="height: 15px !important; width: 15px !important; vertical-align: text-bottom !important;" height="15" width="15" data-unique-identifier=""><br></div><div class=""><br></div><div class="">SD.<br></div></div><div class=""><br></div><div class="sh-signature"><div class="gmail_signature"><div class=""><table dir="ltr" width="100%" style="float:none;font-size:12px;font-family:monospace;color:#000000;border-collapse:collapse" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" class="sh-preserve-color sh-preserve-font-family sh-preserve-font-size"><tbody class="sh-preserve-color sh-preserve-font-family sh-preserve-font-size"><tr class="sh-preserve-color sh-preserve-font-family sh-preserve-font-size"><td style="font-family:monospace,sans-serif;font-size:12px;color:#000000;text-align:left" dir="ltr" class="sh-preserve-color sh-preserve-font-family sh-preserve-font-size"><div class=""><br></div><table width="100%" style="float:none;font-size:12px;font-family:monospace;color:#000000;border-collapse:collapse" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" class="sh-preserve-color sh-preserve-font-family sh-preserve-font-size"><tbody class="sh-preserve-color sh-preserve-font-family sh-preserve-font-size"><tr class="sh-preserve-color sh-preserve-font-family sh-preserve-font-size"><td style="line-height:18px" class="sh-preserve-color sh-preserve-font-family sh-preserve-font-size sh-preserve-line-height"><table style="float:none;font-size:12px;font-family:monospace;color:#000000;border-collapse:collapse" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" class="sh-preserve-color sh-preserve-font-family sh-preserve-font-size sh-preserve-line-height"><tbody class="sh-preserve-color sh-preserve-font-family sh-preserve-font-size sh-preserve-line-height"><tr class="sh-preserve-color sh-preserve-font-family sh-preserve-font-size sh-preserve-line-height"><td style="font-size:25px;line-height:25px" width="100%" height="25" class="sh-preserve-color sh-preserve-font-family sh-preserve-font-size sh-preserve-line-height"> <br></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table><br><br><table class=""><tbody class=""><tr class=""></tr></tbody></table></div><div class=""><br></div></div></div></div><div class=""><br></div><div class="sh-quoted-content"><div class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="">On Tue, Aug 02, 2022 at 15:19:29, Shaun Deans <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:shaun@kadeo.com.au" target="_blank" class="">shaun@kadeo.com.au</a>></span> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="auto" class=""><div class="">> <span class="size" style="font-size:14.6667px">How about NOG focus on meaningful things like streaming the event for those who canβt attend</span><br></div><div class=""><br></div><div class="">I for one would pay up to 50% of the in-person price for a live stream. I have done just this for TedX.<br></div><div dir="auto" class=""><br></div><div dir="auto" class="">Would love to see the math on the income from 'the sponsor' and stack that against the income from copious live streams (minus in-person overheads).<br></div><div dir="auto" class=""><br></div><div dir="auto" class="">For an NOG we seem to be very offline <img src="https://emojis.superhuman.com/1F937-200D-2640-FE0F.png" alt="π€·ββοΈ" title="π€·ββοΈ" style="height: 15px !important; width: 15px !important; vertical-align: text-bottom !important;" height="15" width="15" data-unique-identifier=""><br></div><div dir="auto" class=""><br></div><div dir="auto" class=""><S>It not like we couldn't find some spare bandwidth for a live stream.</s><br></div><div dir="auto" class=""><div class=""><br></div><div class=""><br></div><div dir="auto" data-smartmail="gmail_signature" class=""><div class="">Cheers<br></div><div class=""><br></div><div class="">Shaun Deans<br></div><div class=""><img src="https://emojis.superhuman.com/1F9D9-200D-2642-FE0F.png" alt="π§ββοΈ" title="π§ββοΈ" style="height: 15px !important; width: 15px !important; vertical-align: text-bottom !important;" height="15" width="15" data-unique-identifier=""> <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="http://kadeo.au/" class="">kadeo.<wbr>au</a><br></div><div class="">1800 WKD KDO<br></div><div class=""><img src="https://emojis.superhuman.com/1F4F1.png" alt="π±" title="π±" style="height: 15px !important; width: 15px !important; vertical-align: text-bottom !important;" height="15" width="15" data-unique-identifier=""><img src="https://emojis.superhuman.com/1F3C3-200D-2642-FE0F.png" alt="πββοΈ" title="πββοΈ" style="height: 15px !important; width: 15px !important; vertical-align: text-bottom !important;" height="15" width="15" data-unique-identifier=""><br></div></div></div></div><div class=""><br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Tue, 2 Aug 2022, 14:43 Karl Kloppenborg, <<a href="mailto:k@rl.ag" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="">k@<wbr>rl.<wbr>ag</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote"><div style="word-wrap:break-word" lang="EN-AU" class=""><div class="m_6355657383780585520WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt">Hi David,</span><span style="color:black" class=""><u class=""></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt"> </span><span style="color:black" class=""><u class=""></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt">At 500-600 dollars a ticket, Iβd like you to respect the financial commitment Iβve made to gathering as much merch from my industry peers as Iβd like.</span><span style="color:black" class=""><u class=""></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt"> </span><span style="color:black" class=""><u class=""></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt">This has historically always taken place and given the small community nature of NOG, something many of us look forward to as part of the experience, we like swapping our merch with our friends.
It saves postage.</span><span style="color:black" class=""><u class=""></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt"> </span><span style="color:black" class=""><u class=""></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt">I would say this not only misses the mark but is a continued slap of the face to all those that pay good money to attend the event in hopes to meet with their industry peers but more importantly <i class="">friends.</i></span><span style="color:black" class=""><u class=""></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><i class=""><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt"> </span></i><span style="color:black" class=""><u class=""></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt">How about NOG focus on meaningful things like streaming the event for those who canβt attend, or providing a continued framework to making the event a safer place for all?</span><span style="color:black" class=""><u class=""></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt"> </span><span style="color:black" class=""><u class=""></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt">Honestly.</span><span style="color:black" class=""><u class=""></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></span><br></p><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="font" style="font-family:-webkit-standard"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt">Kind Regards,<u class=""></u></span></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="font" style="font-family:-webkit-standard"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt">--<u class=""></u></span></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b class=""><span class="font" style="font-family:-webkit-standard"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt">Karl Kloppenborg, </span></span></b><i class=""><span class="font" style="font-family:-webkit-standard"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt">(BCompSc, CNCF-[KCNA, CKA, CKAD], LFCE, CompTIA Linux+ XK0-004)<u class=""></u></span></span></i><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="font" style="font-family:-webkit-standard"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt">Managing Director, Invention Labs.<u class=""></u></span></span><br></p></div></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></span><br></p><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm" class=""><p style="margin-bottom:12.0pt" class="MsoNormal"><b class=""><span class="size" style="font-size:12pt">From: </span></b><span class="size" style="font-size:12pt">AusNOG <<a rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@ausnog.net" target="_blank" class="">ausnog-bounces@<wbr>ausnog.<wbr>net</a>> on behalf of <a rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:david@hughes.id" target="_blank" class="">david@<wbr>hughes.<wbr>id</a> <<a rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:david@hughes.id" target="_blank" class="">david@<wbr>hughes.<wbr>id</a>><br> <b class="">Date: </b><span class="sh-date" data-date-isostring="2022-08-08T21:00:00.000Z">Tuesday</span>, <span class="sh-date" data-date-isostring="2022-08-01T14:00:00.000Z">2 August 2022</span> at 2:21 pm<br> <b class="">To: </b>AusNOG Mailing List <<a rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net" target="_blank" class="">ausnog@<wbr>ausnog.<wbr>net</a>><br> <b class="">Subject: </b>[AusNOG] Promotional material at AusNOG Events.<u class=""></u></span></p></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt">Afternoon all,<br> <br> We've been contacted by one of the sponsors of our conference in April about companies who aren't sponsors handing out promotional material, in particular branded t-shirts etc. While everyone likes getting a bag full of free merch, we ask that attendees respect
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