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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">I frequently attend other Australian
      tech conferences where most sessions are streamed or recorded, but
      certain talks have opted out - either due to the presenting
      speaker or their organisation. <br>
      <br>
      As an example I've seem a few interesting talks by DSD spooks
      which obvious were tightly controlled due to subject matter,
      whereas others opt-out simply because the presenter just preferred
      not to have live or recorded A/V for privacy or personal reasons.<br>
      <br>
      Those conferences and usergroup meetings seem to be able to deal
      perfectly well with this, often simply with a pair of checkboxs
      within their CFP submissions process.<br>
      <br>
      I think these all-or-nothing sort of objections seem to be
      somewhat specific to this particular NOG community, rather than
      the geographical region of Australia/APAC as a whole :)<br>
      <br>
      Cheers,<br>
       Ender<br>
      <br>
      <br>
      On 2/8/22 16:31, Nikolas Geyer wrote:<br>
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      I’m confused at the insinuation it’s an “all or nothing” approach.
      Other NOGs around the world operate a hybrid model successfully,
      whereby those who cannot have their presentations recorded or
      slides shared for <insert various reasons here> don’t. Yes,
      some people attending remotely only will miss a small handful of
      sessions, but it’s only a small handful. 
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      <div>If other NOGs can make the model work, why can’t AusNOG? I’m
        genuinely interested in understanding in what is so unique in
        this part of the world that makes it unapproachable. </div>
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        <div dir="ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div>
        <div dir="ltr"><br>
          <blockquote type="cite">On Aug 2, 2022, at 6:10 PM, Terry
            Manderson <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:terry@terrym.net"><terry@terrym.net></a> wrote:<br>
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          <div dir="ltr"> The guarantee for streams to not be replayed
            is limited. Many legal teams cannot approach that. It's as
            simple as that.
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            <div>I'd, personally, rather AusOG get the awesome
              presentations rather than the redacted ones.. YMMV.<br>
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                  <div>Cheers,</div>
                  <div>Terry</div>
                  <div>--</div>
                  <div>Mobile device, don't expect grammar.</div>
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                  <blockquote type="cite">On 2 Aug 2022, at 5:59 pm,
                    Nathan Brookfield
                    <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:Nathan.Brookfield@iperium.com.au"><Nathan.Brookfield@iperium.com.au></a> wrote:<br>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                          style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">It’s very
                          common for conferences for slides not to be
                          published or the stream not to be replayed
                          later but streaming is here and not going
                          anywhere, if anything with the conference size
                          constantly growing it would likely end up in
                          MORE revenue as tickets often sell out and
                          space becomes an issue so even more now than
                          ever it would seem worthwhile.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                          style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
                              lang="EN-US"> Terry Manderson
                              <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:terry@terrym.net"><terry@terrym.net></a>
                              <br>
                              <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 2 August 2022 5:53
                              PM<br>
                              <b>To:</b> Nathan Brookfield
                              <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:Nathan.Brookfield@iperium.com.au"><Nathan.Brookfield@iperium.com.au></a><br>
                              <b>Cc:</b> Shaun Deans
                              <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:shaun@kadeo.com.au"><shaun@kadeo.com.au></a>; AusNOG Mailing
                              List <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net"><ausnog@ausnog.net></a><br>
                              <b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] Promotional
                              material at AusNOG Events.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal">its not that Australia is
                        special, but (from experience) previous
                        presenters have said explicitly "don't stream,
                        don't share slides".<o:p></o:p></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal">i.e In $dayjob I cannot
                          show or say things regarding some stuff that
                          is recorded or streamed...<o:p></o:p></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
                        <div>
                          <div>
                            <p class="MsoNormal">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></p>
                          </div>
                          <div>
                            <p class="MsoNormal">Terry<o:p></o:p></p>
                          </div>
                          <div>
                            <p class="MsoNormal">--<o:p></o:p></p>
                          </div>
                          <div>
                            <p class="MsoNormal">Mobile device, don't
                              expect grammar.<o:p></o:p></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal"><br>
                            <br>
                            <o:p></o:p></p>
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                            style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">On 2 Aug
                              2022, at 5:48 pm, Nathan Brookfield <<a
href="mailto:Nathan.Brookfield@iperium.com.au" moz-do-not-send="true"
                                class="moz-txt-link-freetext">Nathan.Brookfield@iperium.com.au</a>>
                              wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                            <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I’m
                                not buying that this is the case because
                                any single person considering 300 people
                                have laptops out could record this at
                                any time whether Video or Audio.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">NZNOG
                                stream, NANOG stream, I went to a
                                conference recently for RPAS with
                                companies like Boeing, Northrop Grumman
                                and other military industrial complex
                                types talking and it was all streamed
                                privately with an NDA agreed too when
                                opening the stream, we’re way past the
                                days of someone saying something in a
                                room being private and if the other
                                NOG’s can do it then why is Australia
                                special….</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
                                  lang="EN-US"> AusNOG <<a
                                    href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@ausnog.net"
                                    moz-do-not-send="true"
                                    class="moz-txt-link-freetext">ausnog-bounces@ausnog.net</a>>
                                  <b>On Behalf Of </b>Shaun Deans<br>
                                  <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 2 August 2022
                                  5:43 PM<br>
                                  <b>To:</b> Terry Manderson <<a
                                    href="mailto:terry@terrym.net"
                                    moz-do-not-send="true"
                                    class="moz-txt-link-freetext">terry@terrym.net</a>><br>
                                  <b>Cc:</b> AusNOG Mailing List <<a
                                    href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net"
                                    moz-do-not-send="true"
                                    class="moz-txt-link-freetext">ausnog@ausnog.net</a>><br>
                                  <b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG]
                                  Promotional material at AusNOG Events.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                            <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal">All valid points and
                                it's hard to please humans 100% of the
                                time.<o:p></o:p></p>
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                                <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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                                <p class="MsoNormal">All we can do is
                                  provide options and boundaries which
                                  the board have done.<o:p></o:p></p>
                                <div>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                </div>
                                <div>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal">It's now up to
                                    the community to make choices.<o:p></o:p></p>
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                                  <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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                                  <p class="MsoNormal">The board to a
                                    great job and it's easy for me to
                                    play devil's advocate from my arm
                                    chair.<o:p></o:p></p>
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                                  <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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                                  <p class="MsoNormal">I look forward to
                                    attending an AusNOG in any inclusive
                                    and available form that works for
                                    everyone.<o:p></o:p></p>
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                                  <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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                                  <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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                                      <p class="MsoNormal">Cheers<br>
                                        <br>
                                        Shaun Deans<br>
                                        <span
                                          style="font-family:"Segoe
                                          UI Emoji",sans-serif">🧙</span>‍<span
                                          style="font-family:"Segoe
                                          UI Emoji",sans-serif">♂</span>️
                                        kadeo.au<br>
                                        1800 WKD KDO<br>
                                        <span
                                          style="font-family:"Segoe
                                          UI Emoji",sans-serif">📱🏃</span>‍<span
                                          style="font-family:"Segoe
                                          UI Emoji",sans-serif">♂</span>️<o:p></o:p></p>
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                            <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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                                <p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, 2 Aug 2022,
                                  17:34 Terry Manderson, <<a
                                    href="mailto:terry@terrym.net"
                                    moz-do-not-send="true"
                                    class="moz-txt-link-freetext">terry@terrym.net</a>>
                                  wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                                  <p class="MsoNormal">Heh <span
                                      style="font-family:"Segoe UI
                                      Emoji",sans-serif">😏</span>
                                    .666 of a seat ... cute
                                    <span style="font-family:"Segoe
                                      UI Emoji",sans-serif">😂</span> <o:p></o:p></p>
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                                    <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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                                    <p class="MsoNormal">there are of
                                      course two other interesting
                                      components to this 1. "its the
                                      network (of people) behind the
                                      network.. eg get to know people,
                                      meet people, be in person (if you
                                      can) and build trust by eating
                                      with, drinking with, those that
                                      you can help or they can help
                                      you.... 2. if it is streamed and
                                      you are remote, the "ausnog steam
                                      blackout" isn't helpful to anyone.<o:p></o:p></p>
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                                    <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                                      style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">my
                                      perspective, ymmv. <o:p></o:p></p>
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                                        <p class="MsoNormal">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></p>
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                                        <p class="MsoNormal">Terry<o:p></o:p></p>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal">--<o:p></o:p></p>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal">Mobile
                                          device, don't expect grammar.<o:p></o:p></p>
                                      </div>
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                                      <p class="MsoNormal"><br>
                                        <br>
                                        <br>
                                        <o:p></o:p></p>
                                      <blockquote
                                        style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"
                                          style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">On
                                          2 Aug 2022, at 5:23 pm, Shaun
                                          Deans <<a
                                            href="mailto:shaun@kadeo.com.au"
                                            target="_blank"
                                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                                            class="moz-txt-link-freetext">shaun@kadeo.com.au</a>>
                                          wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p></o:p></p>
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                                              <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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                                              <p class="MsoNormal">Terry<o:p></o:p></p>
                                            </div>
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                                              <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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                                              <p class="MsoNormal">You
                                                do raise a valid point
                                                and I hear your view.<o:p></o:p></p>
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                                              <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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                                              <p class="MsoNormal">Numbers
                                                and statistics can be
                                                viewed to make anyone's
                                                points true I was just
                                                saying - what if.<o:p></o:p></p>
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                                              <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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                                              <p class="MsoNormal">>
                                                Past performance is not
                                                a indicator of future
                                                performance. /s<o:p></o:p></p>
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                                              <p class="MsoNormal">>
                                                All advice is general in
                                                nature /s<o:p></o:p></p>
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                                              <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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                                              <p class="MsoNormal">But
                                                in the interest of
                                                healthy community
                                                debate:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                                              <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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                                              <p class="MsoNormal">Let's
                                                say 1/4 of the talks are
                                                only 'in the room' <o:p></o:p></p>
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                                              <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                            </div>
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                                              <p class="MsoNormal">Therefore
                                                the above is discounted
                                                by 25% cause the
                                                participants only get
                                                75% of the event.<o:p></o:p></p>
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                                              <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                            </div>
                                            <div>
                                              <p class="MsoNormal">-
                                                15,000 / ($300 * 0.75) =
                                                66.666 Tickets.<o:p></o:p></p>
                                            </div>
                                            <div>
                                              <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                            </div>
                                            <div>
                                              <p class="MsoNormal">For
                                                every pro there is a
                                                con. <o:p></o:p></p>
                                            </div>
                                            <div>
                                              <p class="MsoNormal">Innovation
                                                does not come without
                                                compromise.<o:p></o:p></p>
                                            </div>
                                            <div>
                                              <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                            </div>
                                            <div>
                                              <p class="MsoNormal">I'm
                                                sure those extra 16
                                                seats will sell fast
                                                with the e-swag that
                                                they receive.<o:p></o:p></p>
                                            </div>
                                            <div>
                                              <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                            </div>
                                            <div>
                                              <p class="MsoNormal">Don't
                                                know how I'm going to
                                                fill that .666 of a seat
                                                <span
                                                  style="font-family:"Segoe
                                                  UI
                                                  Emoji",sans-serif">
                                                  😈</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                            </div>
                                            <div>
                                              <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                            </div>
                                            <div>
                                              <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                            </div>
                                            <div>
                                              <p class="MsoNormal">Cheers<br>
                                                <br>
                                                Shaun Deans<br>
                                                <span
                                                  style="font-family:"Segoe
                                                  UI
                                                  Emoji",sans-serif">🧙</span>‍<span
style="font-family:"Segoe UI Emoji",sans-serif">♂</span>️
                                                kadeo.au<br>
                                                1800 WKD KDO<br>
                                                <span
                                                  style="font-family:"Segoe
                                                  UI
                                                  Emoji",sans-serif">📱🏃</span>‍<span
style="font-family:"Segoe UI Emoji",sans-serif">♂</span>️<o:p></o:p></p>
                                            </div>
                                          </div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                          <div>
                                            <div>
                                              <p class="MsoNormal">On
                                                Tue, 2 Aug 2022, 17:09
                                                Andrew White, <<a
                                                  href="mailto:admin@uberskilled.com"
                                                  target="_blank"
                                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">admin@uberskilled.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
                                            </div>
                                            <blockquote
                                              style="border:none;border-left:solid
                                              #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm
                                              0cm 0cm
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
                                              <div>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal">I
                                                  thought the key
                                                  benefit was Sactioned
                                                  Swag (tm)?<o:p></o:p></p>
                                              </div>
                                              <div>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                              </div>
                                              <div>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal">-
                                                  Whitey<o:p></o:p></p>
                                              </div>
                                              <div>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                                <div>
                                                  <div>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal">On
                                                      Tue, 2 Aug 2022 at
                                                      17:04, Terry
                                                      Manderson <<a
                                                        href="mailto:terry@terrym.net"
                                                        target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">terry@terrym.net</a>>
                                                      wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <blockquote
                                                    style="border:none;border-left:solid
                                                    #CCCCCC
                                                    1.0pt;padding:0cm
                                                    0cm 0cm
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
                                                    <div>
                                                      <p
                                                        class="MsoNormal">Hi
                                                        Shaun,<o:p></o:p></p>
                                                      <div>
                                                        <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <div>
                                                        <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal">are
                                                          you aware that
                                                          not all
                                                          presentations
                                                          can be
                                                          streamed? Many
                                                          presenters
                                                          provide
                                                          content that
                                                          is "in room
                                                          only" and even
                                                          their slides
                                                          can't be
                                                          shared. How
                                                          does that
                                                          factor into
                                                          you math? <o:p></o:p></p>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <div>
                                                        <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <div>
                                                        <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">That is the key benefit of AusNOG IMHO as
                                                          there have
                                                          been (and will
                                                          be) many
                                                          presentations
                                                          you won't see
                                                          on youtube.<o:p></o:p></p>
                                                        <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal">Terry<o:p></o:p></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal">--<o:p></o:p></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal">Mobile
                                                          device, don't
                                                          expect
                                                          grammar.<o:p></o:p></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                        </div>
                                                        <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <o:p></o:p></p>
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">On 2 Aug 2022, at 4:33 pm, Shaun Deans <<a
href="mailto:shaun@kadeo.com.au" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">shaun@kadeo.com.au</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                        </div>
                                                        <blockquote
                                                          style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"><o:p></o:p></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                        </blockquote>
                                                      </div>
                                                    </div>
                                                    <div>
                                                      <div>
                                                        <blockquote
                                                          style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal">It
                                                          got the better
                                                          of me and I'm
                                                          glad it did.<o:p></o:p></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal">TLDR:
                                                          50x Streams =
                                                          'the sponsor'
                                                          <i>- Swag </i><o:p></o:p></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal">---<o:p></o:p></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <ol type="1"
                                                          start="1">
                                                          <li
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0
                                                          level1 lfo1">
                                                          Income <o:p></o:p></li>
                                                          </ol>
                                                          <ol type="1"
                                                          start="1">
                                                          <ol type="1"
                                                          start="1">
                                                          <li
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0
                                                          level2 lfo1">
                                                          August 2022 = 
                                                          ~ <a
                                                          href="https://www.ausnog.net/events/ausnog-2021/attendees"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">
                                                          300 Attendees </a>at
                                                          $600 <a
                                                          href="https://www.ausnog.net/events/ausnog-2022/registration"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">
                                                          per ticket
                                                          (Average)</a> <o:p></o:p></li>
                                                          <li
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0
                                                          level2 lfo1">
                                                          Total $180K<o:p></o:p></li>
                                                          <li
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt;mso-list:l0 level2
                                                          lfo1">
                                                          Sponsors =
                                                          'Nearly Half'
                                                          → $90K<o:p></o:p></li>
                                                          </ol>
                                                          </ol>
                                                          <ol type="1"
                                                          start="2">
                                                          <li
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0
                                                          level1 lfo1">
                                                          Who Done It
                                                          And What Did
                                                          They Offer ?<o:p></o:p></li>
                                                          </ol>
                                                          <ol type="1"
                                                          start="2">
                                                          <ol type="1"
                                                          start="1">
                                                          <li
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0
                                                          level2 lfo1">
                                                          I'm just going
                                                          to say
                                                          everyone pays
                                                          equal but they
                                                          probably don't<o:p></o:p></li>
                                                          <li
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0
                                                          level2 lfo1">
                                                          This will bias
                                                          for the fact
                                                          that it could
                                                          be any tiering
                                                          and we don't
                                                          want to single
                                                          out community
                                                          members who
                                                          may be
                                                          sponsors<o:p></o:p></li>
                                                          <li
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0
                                                          level2 lfo1">
                                                          So the
                                                          'sponsor
                                                          income' could
                                                          be 15K <o:p></o:p></li>
                                                          </ol>
                                                          </ol>
                                                          <ol type="1"
                                                          start="2">
                                                          <ol type="1"
                                                          start="3">
                                                          <ol type="1"
                                                          start="1">
                                                          <li
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0
                                                          level3 lfo1">
                                                          nice round
                                                          number<o:p></o:p></li>
                                                          <li
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt;mso-list:l0 level3
                                                          lfo1">
                                                          and its
                                                          'nearly half'<o:p></o:p></li>
                                                          </ol>
                                                          </ol>
                                                          </ol>
                                                          <ol type="1"
                                                          start="3">
                                                          <li
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0
                                                          level1 lfo1">
                                                          Streaming to
                                                          to masses!<o:p></o:p></li>
                                                          </ol>
                                                          <ol type="1"
                                                          start="3">
                                                          <ol type="1"
                                                          start="1">
                                                          <li
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0
                                                          level2 lfo1">
                                                          50%  Cost for
                                                          Streaming
                                                          Ticket = $300<o:p></o:p></li>
                                                          <li
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0
                                                          level2 lfo1">
                                                          Total Streams
                                                          = $15,000 /
                                                          $300<o:p></o:p></li>
                                                          <li
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0
                                                          level2 lfo1">
                                                          That's only <b>50
                                                          tickets and it
                                                          may break even</b><o:p></o:p></li>
                                                          </ol>
                                                          </ol>
                                                          <ol type="1"
                                                          start="3">
                                                          <ol type="1"
                                                          start="3">
                                                          <ol type="1"
                                                          start="1">
                                                          <li
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt;mso-list:l0 level3
                                                          lfo1">
                                                          3 people said
                                                          they'd be
                                                          interested
                                                          already.<o:p></o:p></li>
                                                          </ol>
                                                          </ol>
                                                          </ol>
                                                          <ol type="1"
                                                          start="4">
                                                          <li
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0
                                                          level1 lfo1">
                                                          This doesn't
                                                          include:<o:p></o:p></li>
                                                          </ol>
                                                          <ol type="1"
                                                          start="4">
                                                          <ol type="1"
                                                          start="1">
                                                          <li
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0
                                                          level2 lfo1">
                                                          Savings:
                                                          Onsite Costs
                                                          such as venue
                                                          hire,
                                                          insurance, etc
                                                          etc<o:p></o:p></li>
                                                          <li
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt;mso-list:l0 level2
                                                          lfo1">
                                                          Expenses:
                                                          Bandwidth and
                                                          Streaming
                                                          Costs<img
                                                          style="width:.1603in;height:.1603in"
id="_x0000_i1032" src="https://emojis.superhuman.com/1F644.png" alt="🙄"
data-unique-identifier="" moz-do-not-send="true" width="15" height="15"
                                                          border="0"><o:p></o:p></li>
                                                          </ol>
                                                          </ol>
                                                          <ol type="1"
                                                          start="5">
                                                          <li
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0
                                                          level1 lfo1">
                                                          <i>Past
                                                          performance is
                                                          not a
                                                          indicator of
                                                          future
                                                          performance.
                                                          /s</i><o:p></o:p></li>
                                                          <li
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1
                                                          lfo1">
                                                          <i>All advice
                                                          is general in
                                                          nature  /s</i><o:p></o:p></li>
                                                          </ol>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"><img
style="width:.1603in;height:.1603in" id="_x0000_i1031"
                                                          src="https://emojis.superhuman.com/1F3A4.png"
                                                          alt="🎤"
                                                          data-unique-identifier=""
moz-do-not-send="true" width="15" height="15" border="0"><img
                                                          style="width:.1603in;height:.1603in"
id="_x0000_i1030"
                                                          src="https://emojis.superhuman.com/1F481-200D-2642-FE0F.png"
                                                          alt="💁‍♂️"
                                                          data-unique-identifier=""
moz-do-not-send="true" width="15" height="15" border="0"><o:p></o:p></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal">SD.<o:p></o:p></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <table
                                                          class="MsoNormalTable"
style="width:100.0%;border-collapse:collapse;float:none" width="100%"
                                                          cellspacing="0"
cellpadding="0" border="0">
                                                          <tbody>
                                                          <tr>
                                                          <td
                                                          style="padding:0cm
                                                          0cm 0cm 0cm">
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <table
                                                          class="MsoNormalTable"
style="width:100.0%;border-collapse:collapse;float:none" width="100%"
                                                          cellspacing="0"
cellpadding="0" border="0">
                                                          <tbody>
                                                          <tr>
                                                          <td
                                                          style="padding:0cm
                                                          0cm 0cm 0cm">
                                                          <table
                                                          class="MsoNormalTable"
style="border-collapse:collapse;float:none" cellspacing="0"
                                                          cellpadding="0"
                                                          border="0">
                                                          <tbody>
                                                          <tr
                                                          style="height:17.0pt">
                                                          <td
                                                          style="width:100.0%;padding:0cm
                                                          0cm 0cm
                                                          0cm;height:17.0pt"
                                                          width="100%">
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-line-height-alt:18.75pt"><span
                                                          style="font-size:19.0pt;font-family:"Courier
New";color:black"> 
                                                          </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                                          </td>
                                                          </tr>
                                                          </tbody>
                                                          </table>
                                                          </td>
                                                          </tr>
                                                          </tbody>
                                                          </table>
                                                          </td>
                                                          </tr>
                                                          </tbody>
                                                          </table>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                                          <table
                                                          class="MsoNormalTable"
cellpadding="0" border="0">
                                                          <tbody>
                                                          <tr>
                                                          <td
                                                          style="padding:.75pt
                                                          .75pt .75pt
                                                          .75pt"><br>
                                                          </td>
                                                          </tr>
                                                          </tbody>
                                                          </table>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal">On
                                                          Tue, Aug 02,
                                                          2022 at
                                                          15:19:29,
                                                          Shaun Deans
                                                          <<a
                                                          href="mailto:shaun@kadeo.com.au"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">shaun@kadeo.com.au</a>>
                                                          wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal">> How
                                                          about NOG
                                                          focus on
                                                          meaningful
                                                          things like
                                                          streaming the
                                                          event for
                                                          those who
                                                          can’t attend<o:p></o:p></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal">I
                                                          for one would
                                                          pay up to 50%
                                                          of the
                                                          in-person
                                                          price for a
                                                          live stream. I
                                                          have done just
                                                          this for TedX.<o:p></o:p></p>
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                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal">Would
                                                          love to see
                                                          the math on
                                                          the income
                                                          from 'the
                                                          sponsor' and
                                                          stack that
                                                          against the
                                                          income from
                                                          copious live
                                                          streams (minus
                                                          in-person
                                                          overheads).<o:p></o:p></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal">For
                                                          an NOG we seem
                                                          to be very
                                                          offline <img
style="width:.1603in;height:.1603in" id="_x0000_i1029"
                                                          src="https://emojis.superhuman.com/1F937-200D-2640-FE0F.png"
                                                          alt="🤷‍♀️"
                                                          data-unique-identifier=""
moz-do-not-send="true" width="15" height="15" border="0"><o:p></o:p></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"><S>It
                                                          not like we
                                                          couldn't find
                                                          some spare
                                                          bandwidth for
                                                          a live
                                                          stream.</s><o:p></o:p></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                                          </div>
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                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal">Cheers<o:p></o:p></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal">Shaun
                                                          Deans<o:p></o:p></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"><img
style="width:.1603in;height:.1603in" id="_x0000_i1028"
                                                          src="https://emojis.superhuman.com/1F9D9-200D-2642-FE0F.png"
                                                          alt="🧙‍♂️"
                                                          data-unique-identifier=""
moz-do-not-send="true" width="15" height="15" border="0"><a
                                                          href="http://kadeo.au/"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">kadeo.au</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal">1800
                                                          WKD KDO<o:p></o:p></p>
                                                          </div>
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                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"><img
style="width:.1603in;height:.1603in" id="_x0000_i1027"
                                                          src="https://emojis.superhuman.com/1F4F1.png"
                                                          alt="📱"
                                                          data-unique-identifier=""
moz-do-not-send="true" width="15" height="15" border="0"><img
                                                          style="width:.1603in;height:.1603in"
id="_x0000_i1026"
                                                          src="https://emojis.superhuman.com/1F3C3-200D-2642-FE0F.png"
                                                          alt="🏃‍♂️"
                                                          data-unique-identifier=""
moz-do-not-send="true" width="15" height="15" border="0"><o:p></o:p></p>
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                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal">On
                                                          Tue, 2 Aug
                                                          2022, 14:43
                                                          Karl
                                                          Kloppenborg,
                                                          <<a
                                                          href="mailto:k@rl.ag"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">k@rl.ag</a>>
                                                          wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Hi David,<o:p></o:p></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">At 500-600
                                                          dollars a
                                                          ticket, I’d
                                                          like you to
                                                          respect the
                                                          financial
                                                          commitment
                                                          I’ve made to
                                                          gathering as
                                                          much merch
                                                          from my
                                                          industry peers
                                                          as I’d like.<o:p></o:p></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">This has
                                                          historically
                                                          always taken
                                                          place and
                                                          given the
                                                          small
                                                          community
                                                          nature of NOG,
                                                          something many
                                                          of us look
                                                          forward to as
                                                          part of the
                                                          experience, we
                                                          like swapping
                                                          our merch with
                                                          our friends.
                                                          It saves
                                                          postage.<o:p></o:p></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I would say
                                                          this not only
                                                          misses the
                                                          mark but is a
                                                          continued slap
                                                          of the face to
                                                          all those that
                                                          pay good money
                                                          to attend the
                                                          event in hopes
                                                          to meet with
                                                          their industry
                                                          peers but more
                                                          importantly <i>friends.</i><o:p></o:p></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><i> </i><o:p></o:p></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">How about NOG
                                                          focus on
                                                          meaningful
                                                          things like
                                                          streaming the
                                                          event for
                                                          those who
                                                          can’t attend,
                                                          or providing a
                                                          continued
                                                          framework to
                                                          making the
                                                          event a safer
                                                          place for all?<o:p></o:p></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Honestly.<o:p></o:p></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                                                          style="font-family:-webkit-standard">Kind
                                                          Regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                                                          style="font-family:-webkit-standard">--</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span
                                                          style="font-family:-webkit-standard">Karl
                                                          Kloppenborg,
                                                          </span></b><i><span
style="font-family:-webkit-standard">(BCompSc, CNCF-[KCNA, CKA, CKAD],
                                                          LFCE, CompTIA
                                                          Linux+
                                                          XK0-004)</span></i><o:p></o:p></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                                                          style="font-family:-webkit-standard">Managing
                                                          Director,
                                                          Invention
                                                          Labs.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span
                                                          style="font-size:12.0pt">From:
                                                          </span></b><span
style="font-size:12.0pt">AusNOG <<a
                                                          href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@ausnog.net"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">ausnog-bounces@ausnog.net</a>>
                                                          on behalf of
                                                          <a
                                                          href="mailto:david@hughes.id"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">david@hughes.id</a>
                                                          <<a
                                                          href="mailto:david@hughes.id"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">david@hughes.id</a>><br>
                                                          <b>Date: </b>Tuesday,
                                                          2 August 2022
                                                          at 2:21 pm<br>
                                                          <b>To: </b>AusNOG
                                                          Mailing List
                                                          <<a
                                                          href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">ausnog@ausnog.net</a>><br>
                                                          <b>Subject: </b>[AusNOG]
                                                          Promotional
                                                          material at
                                                          AusNOG Events.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Afternoon
                                                          all,<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          We've been
                                                          contacted by
                                                          one of the
                                                          sponsors of
                                                          our conference
                                                          in April about
                                                          companies who
                                                          aren't
                                                          sponsors
                                                          handing out
                                                          promotional
                                                          material, in
                                                          particular
                                                          branded
                                                          t-shirts etc. 
                                                          While everyone
                                                          likes getting
                                                          a bag full of
                                                          free merch, we
                                                          ask that
                                                          attendees
                                                          respect the
                                                          financial
                                                          commitment
                                                          that our
                                                          sponsors make
                                                          towards
                                                          funding the
                                                          conference. 
                                                          They cover
                                                          almost half
                                                          the cost and
                                                          in return they
                                                          get the right
                                                          to promote
                                                          themselves to
                                                          all of you who
                                                          attend.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          If you are not
                                                          a sponsor
                                                          please do not
                                                          distribute
                                                          swag to
                                                          delegates at
                                                          the
                                                          conference.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Regards,<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          David, on
                                                          behalf of the
                                                          Board<br>
                                                          ...<br>
                                                          <br>
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